AMD FX-4170 vs Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

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AMD FX-4170 advantages



AMD FX-4170
  • The FX-4170 CPU performs 17% better when running memory-intensive programs.
  • This microprocessor includes SSSE3, SSE4.1 and SSE4.2 instructions.
  • The CPU has Advanced Encryption Standard extension to the instruction set enabled. These instructions accelerate AES encryption and decryption, and are valuable if you run applications, that secure your disk or network data.
  • The AMD FX-4170 supports AVX and XOP instructions. These extensions are not extensively used by programs yet, however their support should improve in future apps.
  • The AMD FX-4170 microprocessor has FMA4 instruction set extension enabled. The FMA4 technology is only offered on AMD processors, thus it probably will not get broad support from software vendors.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) advantages



AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)
  • The Phenom II X4 965 is 16% faster in multi-threaded programs, or when running multiple single-threaded applications.
  • 3DNow! technology is avaialable on this processor. While the 3DNow! technology may increase performance of certain old games, it is now obsolete, and it is no longer used in modern programs.

FX-4170 vs 965 performance comparison

The charts below show relative performance of FX-4170 and Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) microprocessors in various program types. The results in the charts are based on several benchmarks, that you can see in the "Benchmarks" tab. As such, performance in individual benchmarks may be higher or lower than what you see in the charts below. The 'Overall performance' calculates an average of all-around performance benchmarks, and benchmarks, specific to each task type.
Single-threaded performance
2
1.6
1.2
0.8
0.4
0
 
 
1
 
1
 
 
Higher is better
Multi-threaded performance
2
1.6
1.2
0.8
0.4
0
 
 
1
 
1.16
 
 
Higher is better
Memory-intensive applications
2
1.6
1.2
0.8
0.4
0
 
 
1.17
 
1
 
 
Higher is better
Overall performance
2
1.6
1.2
0.8
0.4
0
 
 
1.01
 
1
 
 
Higher is better

  - AMD FX-4170       - AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

Complete list of benchmarks, that demonstrate performance difference between AMD FX-4170 and AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) in various types of tests, can be seen in the "Benchmarks" tab.


FX-4170 vs 965 power consumption comparison

Thermal Design Power
200
160
120
80
40
0
 
 
125W
 
125W
 
 
Lower is better
 

Detailed side by side comparison of FX-4170 vs Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) specs can be found in the "Specifications" tab. Much more detailed comparison of internal features of both CPUs you will find in the "CPUIDs" tab.


Pros and Cons summary

FX-4170 Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)
General recommendations:
Identical overall performance,
Features SSE4.1 / SSE4.2 / AVX / XOP instructions
  General recommendations:
Comparable overall performance,
Performs better in multi-threaded applications

Drawbacks:

Performs worse in multi-threaded tasks
 

Drawbacks:

Lacks some instructions

Similar processors

FX-4170 Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)
 

Similar processors use the same socket and architecture as FX-4170 and 965.

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More comparisons

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Specifications

Please visit AMD FX-4170 and AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) pages for more complete specifications of both microprocessors.

 AMD FX-4170AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)
Market segmentDesktop
ManufacturerAMD
FamilyFX-SeriesPhenom II X4
Basic details
Model numberFX-4170965
CPU part numberFD4170FRW4KGUHDZ965FBK4DGM
Box part numberFD4170FRGUBOXHDZ965FBGMBOX
Introduction dateFebruary 27, 2012November 4, 2009
Current official price$122 (as of Mar 2014) 
 
CPU features
Core nameZambeziDeneb
Platform nameScorpiusDragon
MicroarchitectureBulldozerK10
Technology (micron)0.0320.045
Data width (bits)64
SocketSocket AM3+Socket AM2+ / Socket AM3
Frequency (MHz)42003400
Turbo Frequency (MHz)4300 / 4300 / - / - 
Bus speed (MHz) 2000 (HT/QPI)
Clock Multiplier 17
L1 cache128 KB (code) / 64 KB (data)256 KB (code) / 256 KB (data)
L2 cache (KB)40962048
L3 cache (KB)81926144
Max temperature (°C) 55 - 62
TDP (Watt)125
Core voltage (V) 0.825 - 1.4
Cores4
Threads4
Multiprocessing1
 
Instruction set extensions
3DNow!-+
AES / Advanced Encryption Standard+-
AMD64 / EM64T 64-bit technology+
AVX / Advanced Vector Extensions+-
FMA4 / 4-operand Fused Multiply-Add+-
MMX+
SSE+
SSE2+
SSE3+
SSE4.1+-
SSE4.2+-
SSSE3 / Supplemental SSE3+-
XOP / eXtended Operations+-
 
Supported technologies
PowerNow! / Enhanced SpeedStep+
Turbo Core / Turbo Boost+-
Unlocked multiplier+
Virtualization+
Virus Protection / Execute Disable bit+
 
Integrated Graphics
GPU TypeNone
 
Integrated Memory Controller(s)
The number of controllers1
Memory channels2
Supported memoryDDR3-1866DDR2-1066, DDR3-1333
Notes:

Rows with different specifications or features are highlighted.

For detailed specifications of "AMD FX-4170" or "AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)" parts please click on the links in the table header.

Benchmarks

System setup

AMD FX-4170 and 965 (125W, BE) processors were tested using different system components, that are identified by MB, RAM and VID columns in the tables below. The numbers in each of these columns correspond to one of motherboards (MB), memory configurations (RAM) or graphics adapters (VID), listed below:

MB - Motherboard(s):
1. ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX
2. ASROCK M3A780GXH/128M
3. MSI K9A2 PLATINUM

RAM - Memory:
1. 4GB DUAL-CHANNEL CRUCIAL BALLISTIXPC3-14900 (DDR3-1866)
2. 2 GB DUAL-CHANNEL CORSAIR CM3X1024-1333C9 DDR3
3. 2GB DUAL-CHANNEL CORSAIR CM2X1024-6400C4

VID - Video card(s):
1. MSI R6670 1GB GDDR5 (ATI RADEON)
2. POWERCOLOR 24PRO256M DDR2 (ATI RADEON HD2400)

All tests were performed at default frequency and voltage, using manufacturer's stock fan/heatsink. None of the components were overclocked. Motherboard BIOS options were left at default settings.

The results of all benchmarks are broken into four categories: multi-threaded, single-threaded, memory intensive and graphics / gaming.


FX-4170 vs 965 (125W, BE) single-threaded benchmarks

Single-threaded benchmarks run on a single CPU core, and do not depend on such features as the number of cores, or Hyper-Threading technology. Additionally, they do not utilize on-chip caches, dedicated to other cores.

     

    AMD FX-4170           AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

3DMark03 CPU score benchmark

Uses DirectX software vertex shader to run Wings of Fury and Trolls' Lair games, and calculates a 3DMark03 CPU score based on averaged number of frames per second, achieved by the CPU/GPU combination.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
68.5%222
67.9%332

CINEBENCH R10 CPU score (1 core) benchmark

Measures performance of a single-core rendering of a photo-realistic 3D image using CINEMA 4D software engine.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
99.7%332
98.0%222

PCMark2002 CPU score benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.8%222
92.6%111

Super PI (1M) benchmark

Measures time, required to calculate the first 1 million digits after the decimal point in the number Pi.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.9%222
99.7%111


FX-4170 vs 965 (125W, BE) multi-threaded benchmarks

Multi-threaded benchmarks utilize all CPU cores and other on-chip resources (on-chip caches, internal buffers, etc). Intel's Hyper-Threading feature also helps to improve multi-threading performance.

     

    AMD FX-4170           AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

CINEBENCH R10 CPU score benchmark

Measures performance of multi-core rendering of a photo-realistic 3D image using CINEMA 4D software engine.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.3%222
86.2%111

CINEBENCH R10 render time (seconds) benchmark

Measures time taken to render a photo-realistic 3D image using CINEMA 4D software engine.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.4%222
86.2%111

Euler3D benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
99.6%222
96.2%332

Sandra Dhrystone (MIPS) benchmark

Runs Dhrystone test on all cores, and reports estimated integer performance in MIPS (Millions of Instructions Per Second).
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.8%222
77.6%111

Sandra MultiMedia Floating Point (it/s) benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.6%222
92.0%111

    AMD FX-4170           AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

Sandra MultiMedia Integer (it/s) benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.7%222
79.9%111

Sandra Whetstone (MFLOPS) benchmark

Runs Whetstone test on all cores, and reports estimated floating-point performance in MFLOPS (Millions of Floating-Point Operations Per Second).
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.8%222
48.8%111

Sandra Whetstone SSE2 (MFLOPS) benchmark

Runs SSE2-enabled Whetstone test on all cores, and reports estimated floating-point performance in MFLOPS (Millions of Floating-Point Operations Per Second).
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.8%222
86.2%111

wPrime v1.55 (32M) benchmark

wPrime benchmark measures time taken to calculate square roots of numbers from 1 to 33554431.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%332
99.4%222
69.0%111


FX-4170 vs 965 (125W, BE) graphics benchmarks

Graphics benchmarks depend on the type of integrated or discrete graphics adapter, and to less extent on the processor performance. Because these benchmarks are synthetic, they may not truly represent gaming performance. However, they still can be used to estimate whether one processor will perform faster or slower than another CPU in games and other 3D tasks.

Important! The processors were tested using different types of graphics adapters, that may not be suitable for comparison.
     

    AMD FX-4170           AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

3DMark03 game score benchmark

Measures graphics and 3D game performance of discrete and integrated GPUs using 4 different game simulations, that have varying level of DirectX support from version 7 to version 9.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
9.0%222
9.0%332

3DMark2001 score benchmark

Runs a series of game simulations and feature tests to measure graphics and 3D game performance of discrete and integrated GPUs. It utilizes a single CPU core, and it is compatible with DirectX 8 and later APIs.
Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
27.3%332
27.3%222

CINEBENCH R10 OpenGL score benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
30.3%332
30.1%222


FX-4170 vs 965 (125W, BE) memory performance

Memory-intensive tests or programs move large amounts of data to/from memory, and they depend more on memory throughput and the size of on-chip caches, rather than on CPU integer/FP/SIMD performance.

     

    AMD FX-4170           AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE)

7Zip compressing/decompressing speed (1 thread) benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%222
99.2%332
91.3%111

PCMark2002 Memory score benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
79.7%332
79.1%222

WinRAR compressing/decompressing speed benchmark

Longer is better <MBRAMVID
100%111
87.2%222
84.3%332

CPUIDs

The table below compares two random CPUID records for AMD FX-4170 and AMD Phenom II X4 965 (125W, BE) microprocessors, that were submitted to our CPUID database.

  CPUID 1 CPUID 2
ManufacturerAMD
CPU FamilyFX-SeriesPhenom II X4
Model / Processor NumberFX-4170965
Frequency4214 MHz3392 MHz
CWID version0.40.3
Part numberFD4170FRW4KGUHDZ965FBK4DGM
S-Spec / Stepping CodeFA 1202PGNCACAC AC 0939EPMW
 
General information
VendorAuthenticAMD
Processor name (BIOS)AMD FX(tm)-4170 Quad-Core Processor AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
Cores4
Compute units2 
Logical processors4
Processor typeOriginal OEM Processor
Core steppingOR-B2RB-C3
CPUID signature600F12100F43
Family21 (015h)16 (010h)
Model 1 (01h) 4 (04h)
Stepping 2 (02h) 3 (03h)
SocketAM3+ 
 
Cache
L1 data: Associativity4-way set associative2-way set associative
L1 data: Line size64 bytes
L1 data: Lines per tag1
L1 data: Size4 x 16 KB4 x 64 KB
L1 instruction: Associativity2-way set associative
L1 instruction: Comments1 cache per 2 cores 
L1 instruction: Line size64 bytes
L1 instruction: Lines per tag1
L1 instruction: Size2 x 64 KB4 x 64 KB
L2: Associativity16-way set associative
L2: Comments1 cache per 2 cores 
L2: Line size64 bytes
L2: Lines per tag1
L2: Size2 x 2 MB4 x 512 KB
L3: Associativity64-way set associative48-way set associative
L3: Line size64 bytes
L3: Lines per tag1
L3: Size8 MB6 MB
 
Instruction set extensions
3DNow!-+
AES+-
AMD extensions to MMX+
AVX+-
Extensions to 3DNow!-+
FMA4+-
MMX+
SSE+
SSE2+
SSE3+
SSE4.1+-
SSE4.2+-
SSE4A+
SSSE3+-
XOP+-
 
Additional instructions
Advanced Bit manipulation+
CLFLUSH+
CMOV+
CMPXCHG16B+
CMPXCHG8B+
FXSAVE/FXRSTORE+
MONITOR/MWAIT+
PCLMULDQ+-
POPCNT+
PREFETCH/PREFETCHW+
RDTSCP+
SKINIT / STGI support+
SYSCALL/SYSRET+
SYSENTER/SYSEXIT+
XSAVE / XRESTORE states+-
 
Major features
64-bit / Intel 64+
NX bit/XD-bit+
On-chip Floating Point Unit+
PowerNow! / Cool'n'Quiet+
Secure Virtual Machine (Virtualization)+
Turbo Core+-
 
Other features
1 GB large page support+
100MHz multiplier control+
128-bit SSE instructions+
36-bit page-size extensions+
Advanced programmable interrupt controller+
Core multi-processing legacy mode+
Debugging extensions+
Extended APIC space+
Hardware P-state control+
Hardware thermal control+
Instruction based sampling+
LAHF / SAHF support in 64-bit mode+
LBR virtualization+
LOCK MOV CR0 means MOV CR8+
Lightweight profiling support+-
Machine check architecture+
Machine check exception+
Memory-type range registers+
Misaligned SSE mode+
Model-specific registers+
Nested page tables+
OS visible workaround+
Page attribute table+
Page global extension+
Page-size extensions (4MB pages)+
Physical address extensions+
SVM lock+
Software thermal control-+
Support for NRIP save+
THERMTRIP+
TSC rate is ensured to be invariant across all states+
Temperature sensor+
Time stamp counter+
Virtual 8086-mode enhancements+
Watchdog timer support+
+ - feature is supported
- - feature is not supported
Features, not supported by all processors in the table, are not displayed

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