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fRaSsL
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Ohh...Itanium is not the first 64bit CPU, by far! 
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sammyc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Do tell.... and put it in the list...  |
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wepwawet
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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oh, the guest was me.
Anyway, I'll try to get better information.
How shall we rank those chips?
I think that's impossible and not the sense - as eg. the early year would beat the later and the higher transistor count beats the lower.
In general, the cathegory rating is very difficult.
I'd rate a white 6502 with bracket wholes higher than a 4004 grey but I'm sure I'm more or less alone with that.
What about bit rate as cathegory. I think that's a logical clear thing.
I live in Seligenstadt between Frankfurt and Aschaffenburg, one more in the middle south of Germany:-)
next April I will visit the Washpost for a couple of days, maybe we can arrange a beer while playing cards, Gennadiy!?! |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: |
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number 1 card should be the 4004, with number 50 being the very latest & fastest / prestigious CPU on the market today. Perhaps a dual core athlon?
So order them in date / benchmark test result. number 1 being the slowest or oldest.
I like Beer  will be coming to germany for the world cup I think next year. England game of course.  |
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wepwawet
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No, Michael, don't be lazy!
Here's a try sorted by year and bitrate:
1. Intel 4004
2. TMS 1000 (4bit) 0,4 MHz - 1972 - ca. 3000 - ? - ?
3. Intel 3002 (2bit slice) 0,1 MHz? - 1974 - ? - ? - ?
4. RCA 1802 (8bit) 6,4 MHz - 1974 - ? - ? - Spacecraft usage
5. Motorola 6800 (8bit) 2,5 MHz - 2nd Quarter 1974 - - $175 - famous!
6. Zilog Z80 (8bit) 8 MHz - April 1974/July 1976??? - ca. 6000 - ? - famous
7. AMD 2901 (4bit slice) 9,5 MHz - 1975 - - ? - ? - ?
8. MOS 6502 (8bit) 4 MHz - June 1975 - ca. 5000 - $25 - famous!
9. Fairchild F8 (8bit) 2 MHz - 1st Quarter 1975 - ? - ? - ?
10. Signetics 2650 (8bit) - 1975 ? - ? - ?
11. Intersil 6100 (12bit) 8 MHz - 1975 - ? - ? - ?
12. Intel 8088
13. TMS 9900 (first 16bit CPU ever)
14. NEC V20 (8bit)10 MHz - 1976 - 29.000 - ? - 8086 Competitor
15. 186 ????
16. 286 ????
17. 386 ????
18. ----We need this gap filling up----
19. Intel 486 DX-2-66
20. Texas Instruments DX-4-100
21. Intel Pentium 60 (Gold top with FDIV bug)
22. The intel Pentium 166MMX (Plastic)
23. Evergreen 200Mhz Overdrive
24. Cyrix 166+ (133MHz) The One that really didn't work with anything
25. Intel Pentium PRO 200MHz w/ 1MB Cache
26. Intel Pentium II 450-MHz
27. Celeron SLOT 1 300Mhz (Original version)
28. NEXGEN (Unsure of speeds)
29. AMD K6-2-500MHz
30. Via GigaPro
31. Intel Pentium 3 1GHz socket 370
32. Athlon 1Ghz SLOT A
to be improved and continued |
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wepwawet
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | number 1 card should be the 4004, with number 50 being the very latest & fastest / prestigious CPU on the market today. Perhaps a dual core athlon?
So order them in date / benchmark test result. number 1 being the slowest or oldest.
I like Beer will be coming to germany for the world cup I think next year. England game of course. |
let me know if you come to Frankfurt!!! |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| wepwawet wrote: |
1. Intel 4004
2. TMS 1000 (4bit) 0,4 MHz - 1972 - ca. 3000 - ? - ?
3. Intel 3002 (2bit slice) 0,1 MHz? - 1974 - ? - ? - ?
4. RCA 1802 (8bit) 6,4 MHz - 1974 - ? - ? - Spacecraft usage
5. Motorola 6800 (8bit) 2,5 MHz - 2nd Quarter 1974 - - $175 - famous!
6. Zilog Z80 (8bit) 8 MHz - April 1974/July 1976??? - ca. 6000 - ? - famous
7. AMD 2901 (4bit slice) 9,5 MHz - 1975 - - ? - ? - ?
8. MOS 6502 (8bit) 4 MHz - June 1975 - ca. 5000 - $25 - famous!
9. Fairchild F8 (8bit) 2 MHz - 1st Quarter 1975 - ? - ? - ?
10. Signetics 2650 (8bit) - 1975 ? - ? - ?
11. Intersil 6100 (12bit) 8 MHz - 1975 - ? - ? - ?
12. Intel 8088
13. TMS 9900 (first 16bit CPU ever)
14. NEC V20 (8bit)10 MHz - 1976 - 29.000 - ? - 8086 Competitor
15. 186 ????
16. 286 ????
17. 386 ????
18. ----We need this gap filling up----
19. Intel 486 DX-2-66
20. Texas Instruments DX-4-100
21. Intel Pentium 60 (Gold top with FDIV bug)
22. The intel Pentium 166MMX (Plastic)
23. Evergreen 200Mhz Overdrive
24. Cyrix 166+ (133MHz) The One that really didn't work with anything
25. Intel Pentium PRO 200MHz w/ 1MB Cache
26. Intel Pentium II 450-MHz
27. Celeron SLOT 1 300Mhz (Original version)
28. NEXGEN (Unsure of speeds)
29. AMD K6-2-500MHz
30. Via GigaPro
31. Intel Pentium 3 1GHz socket 370
32. Athlon 1Ghz SLOT A
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Now we are getting somewhere. But why have only 2 of us contributed? I'm serious I will get these printed up when they are done! ;o) |
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wepwawet
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | | [But why have only 2 of us contributed? I'm serious I will get these printed up when they are done! ;o) |
maybe we're the only guys that have fun while collecting?
haha, I'm sure the others will contribute when they are ready with the pre-christmas-run for gifts and trees:-)
I have what I need:-)
And I am still a playing child although 38 years... |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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same here... I'm 13 years your juniour. lol 
I leave all my Christmas shopping until 24th December, around 4 o clock. haha |
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gmanbc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Your list is missing quite a few of the earlier processors ie
C4040
C8008
C8080
C8085
C8086
I am guessing that you knew this and they probably weren't significant enough for your list but I like them
Oh yeah, I am forty and I am very old like wepwawet 
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CPUShack
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gshv
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| CPUShack wrote: | | Nexgen 686 |
It'll be difficult to come up with price for this one
More families to add:
Cyrix MediaGX
Transmeta TM3200 or some other Transmeta family
Sun UltraSparc
Some HP CPU
Some IBM CPU
Motorola 68000
Motorola 68020
PowerPC 601
DEC Alpha
StrongArm
At least one MIPS processor
Itanium
Athlon 64
From old families I would add:
8X300
SC/MP or SC/MPII
MC14500
MCS-48/MCS-51
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sammyc
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: | | CPUShack wrote: | | Nexgen 686 |
It'll be difficult to come up with price for this one
Gennadiy |
When I said price - I meant initial market cost / roughly anyway, of when it was first released into the market. |
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chiptalk
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | | gshv wrote: | | CPUShack wrote: | | Nexgen 686 |
It'll be difficult to come up with price for this one
Gennadiy |
When I said price - I meant initial market cost / roughly anyway, of when it was first released into the market. |
It never made it into production (never had an actual selling price), so Gennadiy has a point.  |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| well it's val will be a $N/A then, which means it goes into the pile and gets decided on the next card. |
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