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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Intel MCS-40 Prototype Development Set 1974-What's it worth? Reply with quote

Hi All,

What do you reckon this would be worth?

It's an Intel MCS-40 Prototype System Developers set.

It's complete in a bit of a torn box and has the following:
Set of Six Chips in original antistatic foam:
C4040 N4256 ES
C4289 N3982 ES
C4702A S1008 N5056
P4002 N1609
P4002-1 N4987
C4201 N5503 ES

MCS-40 User Manual for Logic Designers 1974

Data sheet: MCS-40 Prototype System A

Data sheet: 4201 System Clock Implementation Data (this is a photocopy that I believe was added into the kit by Intel)

Data sheet: 2702A Reprogrammable 2K PROM
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, check the foam and make sure its not eating the pins off those chips.

Old foam _ rare chips = VERY bad.

As for price I am going to say $2000+

Its hard to say on a piece like this as we have very little to compare it to.

Can you post better pics of the chips?

And is the datasheet for the 4702A labeled 2702?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, here are some more pics. The data sheet doesn't says 2702.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, looks like the pins on the 4040 & others have been corroded. Not good. Be careful if you try to remove the chips, as the legs can break off

Are you looking to sell this?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn Black death, Other than that fact an awsome set of chips , wich I would guess worth alot. Jeese I wish they used better stuff to pack those older chips in.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

holly shit!!
even today exist this kit sit on some dexion?

nice stuff!and some are ES dont forget this..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that level of corrosion would severely reduce the price. At least for me.

The 4040 looks like it's legs are in pretty good shape.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some chips are desolder and some are pull ? ? ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an awesome box.
Definitely.
When you try to remove chips from the foam DO NOT START WITH THE C4040!

Normally the tinned chips go easier. And they are not that much corroded.

Start with them, then take the C4702 and the C4201 (take that as training). If they go easy out and do not have too much black glue (!) you might risk the C4289.

As absolutely last (if you do not decide to leave it where it is what might be the best choice) try the C4040.

To remove black death try acetone. First put the whole chip into a glass, after a while use a paintbrush to clean the pins.

If the golden pins lost their golden colour or shiver like a rainbow there is nothing you can do. Leave them as they are.

Good luck!

Puuh, I am envious!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I think I'll cut the foam away from the outside with a razor blade and then see if I can slide the foam out from underneath.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it can be done, just be careful
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cut the foam with scissors around the chip, then soaked the whole chip with remaining foam in acetone. The foam disintegrates, then you can carefully try to remove the residual from the legs. I brushed with hydrochloric acid and it worked quite well - but be careful, one false touch of one of those legs and it will break off!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you post pictures when you are done?
Or show a complete movie on youtube!
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