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craig4wd
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: Intel MCS-40 Prototype Development Set 1974-What's it worth? |
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Hi All,
What do you reckon this would be worth?
It's an Intel MCS-40 Prototype System Developers set.
It's complete in a bit of a torn box and has the following:
Set of Six Chips in original antistatic foam:
C4040 N4256 ES
C4289 N3982 ES
C4702A S1008 N5056
P4002 N1609
P4002-1 N4987
C4201 N5503 ES
MCS-40 User Manual for Logic Designers 1974
Data sheet: MCS-40 Prototype System A
Data sheet: 4201 System Clock Implementation Data (this is a photocopy that I believe was added into the kit by Intel)
Data sheet: 2702A Reprogrammable 2K PROM |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 6939 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: |
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First off, check the foam and make sure its not eating the pins off those chips.
Old foam _ rare chips = VERY bad.
As for price I am going to say $2000+
Its hard to say on a piece like this as we have very little to compare it to.
Can you post better pics of the chips?
And is the datasheet for the 4702A labeled 2702? _________________ ***I Aim to Misbehave.***
Some where out there . There's a bullet with your name on it .....
Trick is, to die of old age before it finds you.
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craig4wd
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Hi, here are some more pics. The data sheet doesn't says 2702. |
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 913 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Ahhh, looks like the pins on the 4040 & others have been corroded. Not good. Be careful if you try to remove the chips, as the legs can break off
Are you looking to sell this? |
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Chiefish

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1190 Location: Northwest N.J. U.S.A
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Damn Black death, Other than that fact an awsome set of chips , wich I would guess worth alot. Jeese I wish they used better stuff to pack those older chips in. _________________ "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." A.E.
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kosmokrator

Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 1520 Location: Athnens-GR
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:15 am Post subject: |
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holly shit!!
even today exist this kit sit on some dexion?
nice stuff!and some are ES dont forget this.. _________________ Sillicon Addicted |
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Windmiller

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1454 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I would think that level of corrosion would severely reduce the price. At least for me.
The 4040 looks like it's legs are in pretty good shape. |
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 3203 Location: GALAXY
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: |
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some chips are desolder and some are pull ? ? ? _________________ My vintage CPU collection: www.cpumuseum.com |
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wepwawet

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2061 Location: Seligenstadt - Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: |
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It is an awesome box.
Definitely.
When you try to remove chips from the foam DO NOT START WITH THE C4040!
Normally the tinned chips go easier. And they are not that much corroded.
Start with them, then take the C4702 and the C4201 (take that as training). If they go easy out and do not have too much black glue (!) you might risk the C4289.
As absolutely last (if you do not decide to leave it where it is what might be the best choice) try the C4040.
To remove black death try acetone. First put the whole chip into a glass, after a while use a paintbrush to clean the pins.
If the golden pins lost their golden colour or shiver like a rainbow there is nothing you can do. Leave them as they are.
Good luck!
Puuh, I am envious! |
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craig4wd
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the tips. I think I'll cut the foam away from the outside with a razor blade and then see if I can slide the foam out from underneath. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 6939 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 913 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I cut the foam with scissors around the chip, then soaked the whole chip with remaining foam in acetone. The foam disintegrates, then you can carefully try to remove the residual from the legs. I brushed with hydrochloric acid and it worked quite well - but be careful, one false touch of one of those legs and it will break off! |
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voschid
Joined: 05 Nov 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Will you post pictures when you are done?
Or show a complete movie on youtube! |
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