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gshv

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 4349 Location: Fairfax, VA USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: Intel FV80503200 Q019 ES |
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I found recently very interesting processor:
As you can see it's an engineering sample... or not? Q019 corresponds to Pentium MMX 166, not 200, so it's clearly a remarked processor.
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Minuteman

Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 323
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I have a nice remarked chip too, crappy work
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 7401 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:09 am Post subject: |
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accept yours was remarked by Intel.
apparently they remarked alot of SX25s to this new Sspec # and speed. _________________ ***I Aim to Misbehave.***
Some where out there . There's a bullet with your name on it .....
Trick is, to die of old age before it finds you.
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Minuteman

Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 323
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I didn't know that Intel remarked it's own chips  |
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The_Mad

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 288
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi genna,
I don't think this CPU was remarked. ES are something strange and I have some differents sample with the same S-Spec too :
If you look at the DS, Q140 is for a PPGA CPU... _________________ Webmaster http://www.x86-secret.com
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 7401 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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yah, with ES things are alot differnt, since they are all internal to Intel (for the most part) _________________ ***I Aim to Misbehave.***
Some where out there . There's a bullet with your name on it .....
Trick is, to die of old age before it finds you.
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gshv

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 4349 Location: Fairfax, VA USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Mad wrote: | | I don't think this CPU was remarked. ES are something strange and I have some differents sample with the same S-Spec too |
Maybe you're right... Well, the next time I install Socket 7 motherboard into my test computer I'll run CPUID program on this processor. It'd be interesting to see if it matches Q019 CPUID from Pentium specification update.
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Qwerty

Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1347 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for digging out this ancient thread, but I found a Q019 recently.
It's a Pentium MMX 166 and not 200 !
I'm completely sure that my chip is genuine, because I found it in a pile of chips from a scrap yard. |
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FDIV

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 714 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I also found this chip in a pile of scrap. Purchased for 10cents. I have no idea what is up with the q019 spec. This chip may have been produced as an es from intel or it may be a period forgery. A remarked 166 processor that some chinese firm produced to dupe folks back then. It was most certainly not produced recently to hose collectors though. The quality of the print is good enough to fool me either way. There seem to be an awful lot of these q019's around it would be nice to know the story behind it. |
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FDIV

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 714 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I just noticed something on these q019's. It is very unlikely they are period fakes. The batch codes and such are different on each one. Fakers usual just slap the same text on everything because it is easier. It is unlikely a faker would go to such trouble as to make all different batch numbers but still use an incorrect ES Q-spec when trying to pass off 166 remarks as 200mhz. |
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andamus

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1029
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| We have already told about this fake/not-fake in the "Latest finds (Modern chips)" (page 4) and lither found that there was "evidence" of it in 1997 in the intel.mmx_technology newsgroup |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1931 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Chook

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 357 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Going through my collection the other day, I realised that I had one of these ES Pentium MMX chips. I hadn't noticed it before and have no idea where it came from. Mine differs from the above photos by having 'MALAY' on the fourth line instead of 'A4' (see photo). Is this one of the fakes too? It has the factory heatsink/fan. Heatsink has no markings on it that typical factory heatsinks do. |
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lither
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 628 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Chook wrote: |
.... Mine differs from the above photos by having 'MALAY' on the fourth line instead of 'A4' (see photo). Is this one of the fakes too? ... |
it is a fake
the first bit of the FPO (C63...) is C
which should be country code for USA ( A4) not malaysia
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10537 |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1931 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Interesting that you got Malay instead of A4 but as lither says, it should say A4 i think. Can you test it with a cpu-id app? The real Q019 has a cpu-id of 544 and the fake has 543
Can i add your image to the fakes category?
http://www.chipdb.org/cat------fakes------1.htm _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 5000 different chips in the database. |
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