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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:15 am    Post subject: one of my projects Reply with quote

I recently purchased a Metallurgical microscope for use at work, but it as also my intention to use for dies and close ups of components in a long term project.

I am still sorting out the camera & polarising filters for the setup, but within the next month will organise.

I have been saving & buying non collection quality chips for this purpose.
So if you have something unusual that you intend to scrap.. please send me a PM. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to rename you Prof_WA (Professor_WA) Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant wait to see what you can do with that baby. The die shots will be incredable. Ill dig around and see what i can conribute to the project for you to examin. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx mate Smile

been picking up a few things in gold scrap lots for chips I don't have scrappy spares of
like the SU082 I got today.. didn't really want to open one of my collection ones Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

today i find in my local scrap-flea market one like this baby.......
im not sure what capable is or not ......and i dont buy it...
i wonder worth 50euros want the seller???
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even old ones keep their value.. the main thing that it is a Metallurgical type microscope.. not a standard compound

Metallurgical microscope have the light source coming from the same side as the lens.. while standard ones have the light coming from the other side.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I THINK ITS LIKE THIS..with the light source inside the lens...also some organs (wattmetter ect was on it).....
Maybe next Sunday I pick it if still available...
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice microscope, exactly what we need for our purposes!
But high quality metallurgical microscopes are expensive
and out of my range so had to cheap out and bought me
a standard binocular... I made the experience that
light from the side works well as long as you do not
need the highest magnifications. Here the lens
is very close to the object (= chip-dies of course:-)
and the lens faint so only a bit light will get there
where you actually need it and you will need much Sad
Two xenon light-sources at the sides are planned, will see...

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am lucky that I can write it off for work.. otherwise probably have gone the same way as you
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity - how much is one of those metallurgical microscopes?

BTW, it looks very professional!
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magictom wrote:
Out of curiosity - how much is one of those metallurgical microscopes?

BTW, it looks very professional!


normally range from $800 - $1400 for this sort.. but if you shop around you can get for a better price.
No point going for anything above 800X.. anything above 1000X is distorted when viewing in air

if you can live with binocular rather than trinocular.. even cheaper

if you dont have a digital SLR camera already.. then a 5 or 9MP microscope camera is best choice

if you went for basic model of this (same optical specs) and got a 3MP camera.. set you back $500 - $600

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon_WA wrote:
if you dont have a digital SLR camera already.. then a 5 or 9MP microscope camera is best choice


Finally got around to buying a microscope camera.. so hopefully I can soon share some of the pictures

After discussions with John's mates at 6502.org I ended up only going for the 3MP version... as this was their comment about going higher than 2.0MP

which is a close match to the resolution of the microscope objectives
Not much sense in going to higher resolution since that would only be adding pixels to a blur.


Now on the trail of a good stereo zoom microscope to take complete single pics of dies.. rather than having to stitch pics together all the time

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make a lot of pics and share them .. we cant wait Smile you'll be our Hubble Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon_WA wrote:
Now on the trail of a good stereo zoom microscope to take complete single pics of dies.. rather than having to stitch pics together all the time

Had a look around and ended up getting a 2nd hand unit on local ebay
10 - 45x (my other is 40 - 800x) and a lot of stereo zoom are only a single magnification
internal light source (a must)
and a large flat bed (most have a bed big enough only for slides)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm one step closer.. just got my microscope camera Smile
all I need now is some time Laughing

Not sure if seller realises or not.. but he sent the $400 model instead of the $200 model I purchased Confused

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