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 Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:09 am Post subject: engineering sample CPU |
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I received a barebones pc with a processor already installed in it.
Windows registered the processor as Genuine Intel(R) Pentium 3.2GHz.
I found a program from Intels website that identified my processor as a Engineering sample so I wanted to know:
What is the difference between this processor and a normal procesor?
Am I ok to use this processor for everyday use including making/burning movies?
Although windows says my processor is 3.2GHz, the identification utility from intel's website said my processor is 2.8GHz. Why the difference in speed?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Yeah course you are - the only differences are:
more interesting to us.
Cost the supplier squiddily dot.
has a q spec instead of s spec
In theory Engineering samples are more reliable because Intel wouldnt realease some crappy ES's now would they?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Umm I dont follow. I'm not really that advanced with pcs but I decided to build a shuttle in order to further my knowledge.
How is the processor more interesting?
What is the difference between q and s spec?
If this was a retail processor what would be the equivalent?
So are ES rare and does this make it worth more money?
Maybe I should stop using it |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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The majority of users who use CPU-World collect Engineering samples.
Do a search on Ebay for finished P4 Engineering samples in the US, and compare prices.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| Modern Engineering Samples ( fast p4 ) are worth good money on ebay or on the overclockers forums. Many people here collect them, but I doubt you will get the true value here, as collectrs here are unlikely to use it. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Is it right the clocks arent fixed?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: Re: engineering sample CPU |
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| frustrated wrote: | | What is the difference between this processor and a normal procesor? |
Engineering samples may contain errata that may be fixed in production processors. Also, samples have unlocked clock multiplier, and they are not warranted by Intel.
| Quote: | | Am I ok to use this processor for everyday use including making/burning movies? |
Yes, you should be fine.
| Quote: | | Although windows says my processor is 3.2GHz, the identification utility from intel's website said my processor is 2.8GHz. Why the difference in speed? |
Possibly because it was overclocked. Download CPU-Z program (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) or similar, and run it on your processor. I suspect it'll give you the same information as Intel's utility.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info guys.
I took at look at cpuz and it seems that I have an engineering sample of an intel p4 540.
I've learnt a lot already but I would like to know why intel bother to make engineering samples.
Intel must obviously make samples of processors and test these before they mass produce them but why do companies like shuttle etc get them?
I've been told that these companies use ES to test computers but why cant they just use normal production processors?
THanks for the help |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Although windows says my processor is 3.2GHz, the identification utility from intel's website said my processor is 2.8GHz. Why the difference in speed?
Possibly because it was overclocked. Download CPU-Z program (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) or similar, and run it on your processor. I suspect it'll give you the same information as Intel's utility. |
if you look at the link you posted ghsv my above question has been answered,
Q: CPU-Z reports my Pentium 4 3GHz or above with a 2800MHz CPU speed.
A: This is the effect of C1E (Enhanced Halt State) and/or EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology). Load your system and you will see the frequency increase to its nominal value. |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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shuttle are huge
This is my company www.19computing.co.uk
How did you manage to get a barebone shuttle WITH processor in it from shuttle?
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| frustrated wrote: | | I've been told that these companies use ES to test computers but why cant they just use normal production processors? |
One of the reasons why they ship ES processors is that when new processor model is introduced by Intel, the new production processors may be in short supply. So, the companies use pre-production (ES) processors to compensate for it. Some small shops may also ship computers with ES processors to save a few bucks - this is because ES processors are given to companies for free, not sold.
| Quote: | Q: CPU-Z reports my Pentium 4 3GHz or above with a 2800MHz CPU speed.
A: This is the effect of C1E (Enhanced Halt State) and/or EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology). Load your system and you will see the frequency increase to its nominal value. |
Good to know. I've heard about Enhanced Halt feature, but never bothered to check what is it.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey thanks for all your good feedback guys.
I'm not entirely sure how that happened. My only guess is that it was either tested by shuttle, the ditributor or resseller before I got it and someone forgot to take the cpu out.
On the plus side I have a spare cpu that I can use to build another pc  |
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You mean you got a free CPU with a barebones order?
Damn, lucky! |
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Daemon09
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hello.
You would find it out to say from where it is possible to obtain it engineering sample cpu???
I say thank you for the help! |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ebay, es cpu's are sold all the time. Overclockers love them because the multiplier is unlocked. |
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