Link to c4004 grey on ebay

[Borris70]

i think a NS 4004 gold lid ist much more rare. it's the only one i ever saw (but i don't have the money at the moment for bidding

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5159189672&ssPageName=ADME:B:WN:US:1

[chipcollector]

Mad, I think your only judging the scarcity of the c4004 grey by how many you saw sell on ebay. Sure, maybe 2,3 or even 4, but one after the other the price almost doubles.

Like many said before, only a handful exist. If you find a c4004 Grey, I will pay you not $500, but $700. But I guarantee you wont

BTW, the only reason NexGen chips are rare is because the company was producing chips for a VERY short period of time. Unlike intel, they did not make the first Micro processor. I wouldn't think how valuable this is now, but how valuable it is in the future. Engineering samples and nexgen would be worthless, mark my word. Even though I have some, I regret buying.

[xsecret]

I saw not 2, 3 or 4 but 20+ C4004 Grey on eBay in the last year.

But you're right on something : there is 2 kind of collection :

1/ The biggest regarding the number and diversity of chips

2/ The biggest regarding the chips' worth.

I don't want a collection that can be bought only with many money. I want to spend time on searching the rare pieces

[CPUShack]

[gshv]

[metalmaker]

[chipcollector]

This has turned into some kind of gangbang(?)

All of you are not understanding the point, and I'm not exactly expecting you to.

In order to do this, you have to look at history. A perfect example; which person invented The first Car? It immediately comes to mind that Henry Ford, built a machine which would revolutionize transportation. Note that companies who came after that didn't invent the car, but only used the Ford Model Tonneau as an example and built their own version later.
The same exact thing applies to computers! What was the first Microprocessor? The Intel c4004, notice it's not the "INS4004".

[CPUShack]

[chipcollector]

But think about it. Why is it that a collector ACTUALLY collects? Is there a goal in mind, something to prove in the future? Perhaps an investment? It could be anything. Some people just collect for the sake of collecting with no real motivation; I don't know.

But I do know one thing. You will see the c4004 at museums in the future, and you will not see a nexgen x686.

[CPUShack]

[gmphillips3]

C4004 w/gray traces are not that rare. I've probably seen 2 dozen on EBAY over the last 3-4 years.

What is rare is one in this condition. Very few have survived without significant scuffs and scratches.

Would you take $800.00 for it chip collector?

[chipcollector]

[gshv]

[gmanbc]

I got a question? How much would a C4004 be worth if there was no Ebay?

I know stamps made it without the internet but I think chip collecting will really grow fast because of it. Of course George Phillip's book won't hurt either.

By the way I am trying to talk George into a signed copy of his book/CD and I think he should serial number the first ones. What do you guys think? That would give us guys spearheading this hobby a first edition copy.

[gmphillips3]

Supply and demand... It's all about supply and demand.

Without demand, rarity means nothing. Every snowflake is unique, one of a kind, extremely rare, the only one known! So what will you pay me for a handful of snow?

But without rarity, you'll never have any real value. If the streets were paved with diamonds, what would diamonds be worth?

I think the C4004 w/gray traces has a lot going for it. It's a "1st" (high demand) and it's rare like new condition. That said, predicting the future value of collectibles is extremely difficult. How much is that Beannie baby someone paid $5000 for a few years back worth now:)