? difference between HT P4's SL7KK and SL7J6

[midsouthduckhunter]

I have a little Arctic Silver left so I'll use it. I took some pics to write an article, so I'll post them when if I get this thing going.

I'll be really surprised if the 3.6 doesn't run. BTW, how did you know the 3.8 was overheating before starting? There might be something there.

[xrror]

[midsouthduckhunter]

OK, I'm pretty sure I blew up the mobo.

While I was waiting for the new 560 3.6 ghz chip to arrive, I had the original 530 in and testing the new Dynatron P555 cooler. Well, the CPU was running a little hot around 58C, but I was waiting for the Arctic Silver to start working. Sometimes the CPU would go to 70C but the fan would ramp up and it would come back down.

After a few hours of 10-70% CPU usage, I turned the PC off. Later I needed to do something on the PC and TRIED to turn it on. I got nothing. The same black screen as I got when I put the 571 in. I waited until the next day, and the same thing.

The following day, the 560 arrived so I was going to put that in. Upon removing the cooler, it was evident from the thermal grease pattern, I had not secured the cooler evenly and that led to the high CPU temps. Not to worry, I put the 560 in, secured the cooler, and promptly pulled it back off to check the grease pattern. It was all good, so I bolted it back down and powered it up. Nothing happened again. Black screen; no beep, no HD access just a little fan noise.

WTF else could I have done besides fry the 530? And, if I did fry it, why the heck did it keep working and then die when I tried to boot again? My easy peasy CPU swap just blew up in my face. I guess I could get a replacement mobo, but I think I should cut my losses at this point...except I want to fix it and find out what happend?

As always, suggestions and comments are appreciated.

[Guest]

I will never drop my kids at your place for babysitting

Have you tried resetting the cmos? Unplugging the psu for a few minutes?



This sucks, I think you are ready for a core2 duo upgrade...

[xrror]

Ouch, at least the fans spin up though. All I can think of is possibly a cpu socket "pin/pad" whatever they're called got bent in the socket. Or the PSU went south. But the fact that the fans at least spin... well at least the board is passing the power-on signal.

But no, unless the cpu was totally electrically incompatible (I seriously doubt that) or the seller of your 571 sold you a "widowmaker" (part that kills other parts). But that's unlikely too. P4's are actually pretty hard to thermal kill, since the thermal throttling is on die. And 70C isn't anything... lol that Gateway profile I told you about, it hit over 90C before it shut off. Multiple times. Which is horrible, but no heat death. I think in normal operation it ran about 75C load in that board, not good, but nothing smoked so you should be alright as far a cpu's go.

I'm trying to find some more info on the PTGD1-LA. I'm looking for some "stupid pet trick" to truely tell if the motherboard in permanent coma. For instance, my unofficial and unscientific test for Intel and Intel rebranded OEM boards is if when you pull the BIOS config jumper OFF completely (normally it's set to "normal" or "config") if the board doesn't start thrashing the floppy drive trying to recovery flash, it probably really is DOA.

But since your board is an "OEM'ed" Asus, which... what i'm trying to find out is if HP used Award, AMI, Phoenix or whatever it is if there is some true litmus test that the board is totally hosed.

Don't give up yet. But... yea that really sucks. Worst case, I guess keep en eye out for a cheap 775 board that's halfway configurable (I dunno, AsRock used to have some). If anything it'd be a fun test bench for the chip collection you're accumulating.

But I'm going to keep looking for more PTGD1-LA info. It's unfortunate that people don't tinker with the oem'ed boards more, or at least post info about them... that'd be a fun website to build. OEMboardAbuse.org or something. Anyways yea I'll keep looking.

[midsouthduckhunter]

Guest, you know I could keep the kids warm...but the contact cleaner needed to remove the Arctic Silver is prolly not good on their skin.

I did try to reset the CMOS by moving the jumper between 1-2 , 2-3 and then back to 1-2 or whatever the sequence. I did that after I put the 571 in at first. I removed the power when I replaced the chips, so the PSU was always unplugged for a few minutes.

I found this link:

http://www.fixya.com/support/t506228-asus_motherbaord_ptgd1_la

but I can't follow it here at the office. There might not be anything there, but xrror check it out. I am searching for another PTGD1-LA mobo, but they are all priced about $90 which is too much.

[Guest]

As long as kids are cozy...

The link suggestiosn are:

- check capacitors fro swollen ones
- check all power plugs are right fastened
- remove hdd, may be defective and triggering black screen

I add, remove everything and see if it starts with one stick of ram etc... you know the drill.

There is direct link to an intel solution but it's just OS related startup issues, doesn't apply to your case.

Basic stuff.

[xrror]

Ugh, so I can't find much. Seems most people just throw the entire computer out

So that isn't much of an option. The closest I got for the the equivalent Asus based non-OEM was the Asus P5GD1 - but even it doesn't list core2 support so that's not really a particularly attractive option either.

[Guest]