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another clue that the left one is fake
is lost of the inclination (chip edge) |
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Neon_WA
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| bccwchan wrote: |
I have the similar one in my collection. If your is fake, then mine would probably the fake too. (bought it many years ago but no time to test it) |
to help here a pic of where the gold cap meets the ceramic
fake first, then real chip
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bccwchan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your picture.
Will post mine tomorrow for comparsion. |
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smithy
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Good detective work and very useful to know - thanks
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Chook
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You'd have to be pretty good with a grinder to get that good an edge! The fakers never did get doing the print right, the font, colour, depth and distance between letters is never quite right. Of course, back then, nobody would have known the difference.
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johnorun
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Chook wrote: | | You'd have to be pretty good with a grinder to get that good an edge! The fakers never did get doing the print right, the font, colour, depth and distance between letters is never quite right. Of course, back then, nobody would have known the difference. |
Exactly!
It takes a Forensic pro (like Neon-WA) to find these clues years after the fact. 
The original buyers of these "fakes" didn't stand a chance. 
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bccwchan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| This is mine P90 but I suspect it's genuine. |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Looks all good to me.. nothing wrong with this chip 
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bccwchan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| How about this one? The text print on front is quite strange. |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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if it is a fake.. its a good one
i do have a couple of concerns. If you able to take a pic of just the area i have marked, it may decide it one way or another.
If you can take the pic in natural light & not use a flash.. it makes it easier to see faults
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hugo929
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect the P90 of billy is a fake. look at the markings at the bottom of the second picture.
it seems some abnormally mixed-color paint there.
and the marking of the first picture is abormal as well.
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bccwchan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | if it is a fake.. its a good one
i do have a couple of concerns. If you able to take a pic of just the area i have marked, it may decide it one way or another.
If you can take the pic in natural light & not use a flash.. it makes it easier to see faults |
Will take pic tonight and post tomorrow. |
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bccwchan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| hugo929 wrote: | I suspect the P90 of billy is a fake. look at the markings at the bottom of the second picture.
it seems some abnormally mixed-color paint there.
and the marking of the first picture is abormal as well. |
Yes, I share the same view. |
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Neon_WA
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i dont have a problem with the die cap having two styles of printing.
The part number & sSpec are printed at a different time from all the other information printed on the die cap.
so you will always get some variation between the two.
I look more at the print shape & spacing as each plant has its own style.
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JAC
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SX957 is famous for being remarked
Here is mine..
Note the bottom cap looks genuine, but the top of the chip has certainly been ground down and remarked, yes it is possible they remarked it back to SX957. Who knows??
and SX958 less common fake..
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