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Post links of collection fakes here (non active collectors only)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tetrium wrote:
I just keep looking and it's very hard for me to spot the difference. I can see the font looks a little different, especially the ' in '89 and '92.


here is a list of errors
1 ) Font bolder (most obvious in the Intel logo where the l joins the e)
2 ) extra space missing between D & X2ODPR66
3 ) the shape of the 2 in DX2OPR..
4 ) Both 0 & O should be narrower
5 ) C should be narrower
6 ) 5 is wrong shape
7 ) S is wrong shape
8 ) the 9 in SZ935 is taller
9 ) spacing of V4.0
10) T & E in Intel are wrong shape
11) the spacing in the '89 '92

there is a few other things... but wont get into them Wink

as fakes go.. its not a bad one.. least it doesnt look like something that has come out of a kindergarten Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

remarked/fake from not really active collector... and not listed as a fake Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

couple of pics of remark/fakes in collections, not noted as such
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fake?




Edit: The 0's are bigger then the rest of the DX4ODPR line
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tetrium wrote:
Fake?

Edit: The 0's are bigger then the rest of the DX4ODPR line


looks a bit suss.. can you tell me the markings on the die.. then i can be sure

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the underside (don't mind the damage)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the production date (96/16) the die date (96/05) & test date (week 15) all fit together

so apart from the slightly oversize 0s & slightly bolder text, there isnt anything else out of place. Generally with fakes you can find multiple errors.

Due to variations in genuine chip markings, I personally work on 3 - 4 errors for it to be a possible fake
and once i find 6 i put it in the definite fake category.

The only other issue i have with it (but it maybe just the pic) is the part numbing plate looks painted (doesnt have the look of anodized metal)

so I would have to put it in the OK category mate Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's painted, would I be able to remove it with rubbing alcohol? Or could that destroy a perfectly legit chip?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tetrium wrote:
If it's painted, would I be able to remove it with rubbing alcohol? Or could that destroy a perfectly legit chip?


long as you keep away from the text... the anodized finish wont be affected
I would just try a corner of the plate.. if the colour comes off.. then it been painted

here is another fake SZ959 i got off Chook (he has more here http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14297)

The heastsink has been removed on this one.. just to try and look for more info

production date week 02 1995 << not original
Die Date week 26 1995 << original
Test Date week 07 << original
Date on voltage reg week 22 1995 << original

You cant tell in this pic, but the four bottom text lines on the heatsink has been printed using a different ink to the intel overdrive logo

This was a DX4ODP75 with the extra pin cut off and original production date marked would of been around week 06 - 08 1996

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like the text panel has been painted & possibly remarked from a 75.. will PM owner
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from a inactive collector
another remarked 486 OD.. from a 75 to a 100

http://www.cpu-collection.de/?l0=i&i=1330
http://www.cpu-collection.de/?l0=i&i=1330&tb=2

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a fake for sure. Interesting they chose an sspec which doesn't seem to exist (as far as I know)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smithy wrote:
Here is a fake for sure. Interesting they chose an sspec which doesn't seem to exist (as far as I know)


big time fake Laughing

most likely a SX418 by the originally die markings or it could of been SX412

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of those SX416 fakes with the same date code engraved - would be from the same faker. Mine has 92055326AA Malay U 212 on the underside. This is one of the few fakes that use the correct (R).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

these pics are not online, but the owner kindly allowed me to use them Smile

not an easy fake to pick, but this SL5GA 850 Celeron is actually a late production 566.... most likely a SL4PC

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