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henriok
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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I've done this to keep track on the PowerPCs for myself.. I could probably get a pretty accurate PPC/POWER tree for you.
Here's what I did this far: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2288103/PPC-chart1.19.png
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Vlask
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Location: Czech Republic
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Nice, never heard about most of them before. Thats exactly why i asked for help.
Anything helps, as i said, you can only send text info if not interested in editing and i add them, it will be a lot work as i see.
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henriok
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I'm game for building a tree using the VUE tool. Already downloaded it, but I think I would need some kind of template to start off with.
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Vlask
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| henriok wrote: | | I'm game for building a tree using the VUE tool. Already downloaded it, but I think I would need some kind of template to start off with. |
As i told on previous page  . Just download http://vgamuseum.info/images/doc/cputree.zip where is actual latest version and start editing at any place you want. Ignore other trees if they take space needed, then just disable of showing them - click on eye icon at layer window (ctrl+5 to show layer window).
Only one thing, if youre editing manufacturer not included in layers, then pls create new layer for that and use it for editing.
When you end (or do big part), send me file back or use attachments in forum (you have to zip file). I will copy then your done layer and integrated it into mine version (will increase height if needed). Mine version will be updated each time someone send me his work or when i do more intel chips. So space there might be tight, as i told just disable showing layers you dont use.
Sadly VUE have hardpointed paths to images, so if you want it nice with image logos, you have to reload images from your drive - thats why i added to zip also images. If you add new image logo, pls attach it with vue file too.
PS: easy editing hint - holt alt, then left click on previous cpu and move cursor to space desired - vue will create there new connected window for cpu with same background color and font size. Then just copy/paste text from any window a edit.
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Vlask
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Basic intel tree done......uffff. Its been hard work. Someone at intel went crazy and released in years 2006-2007 5 xeons each year on different cores. So i had to widen some years. If youre working on your tree with older version, no problem. I will update your tree. Send it in any version you like. I guess there will be much more extending sizes in future.
Added also info about technology size in microns to 3rd row. It looked too empty.
Also removed D = desktop from legend and added there P sign for Smartphone/Tablet cpu's. (share branch with embeeded cpu)
You can watch full sized image here - http://vgamuseum.info/images/doc/cputree.png
Basic intel should be done, so expecting your corrections and info about missing cpu's (for example theres big hole between embeeded pentium mmx and atom z5xx). Also im not sure about branching of xeon cpus, too many there at same year - they might need some sorting.
Not sure what i will do now, maybe start with AMD, since no AMD fan found to do it.
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rjluna2
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Wow!  That is really lots of work for the Intel family tree  |
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cedrik
Joined: 16 Oct 2011
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Vlask
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Basic AMD tree done. Think im mising some modern Embeeded cpu's, but rest should be done (i hope).
Now i have to move to something older and easier (zilog?, nextgen?). Not sure yet...
Full image as always at http://vgamuseum.info/images/doc/cputree.png
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Vlask
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Status update - added Zilog and Motorola (without Power PC).
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cedrik
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i couldnt find Athlon SFF .. it is a Palomino but its pretty different than a regular Palomino ( it's ceramic, 200FSB), so i think it deserve to be on its own
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Vlask
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| cedrik wrote: | | i couldnt find Athlon SFF .. it is a Palomino but its pretty different than a regular Palomino ( it's ceramic, 200FSB), so i think it deserve to be on its own |
Your wish is my command. Added athlon sff palomino and thoroughbred versions.
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Vlask
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Another day gone, another cpu maker done This e-archeology starting to get more hardcore.... This time i did National Semiconductor and now i know who did 1st 16 and 32bit cpu.....
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Vlask
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Status update - added Cyrix and Sun.
Btw should i highlight by color also 1st xx core cpus? (same as i do now 1st 8/16/32bit cpu). Like first dual/quad/8x core and so on cpus?
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Birdman.
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I'm wondering why different versions of 80186 and 80960 aren't shown there. Then maybe late Intels could be less messy if Atoms and their Celeron and Pentium versions had their own branches, or maybe that just makes it all too high. I hope that someone could help to fill the missing manufacturing process information.
Then I'm wondering whether my die shots could be useful in some different tree version. I could also measure some die sizes with all the open chips if that information is interesting. |
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Vlask
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| Birdman. wrote: | | I'm wondering why different versions of 80186 and 80960 aren't shown there. |
Because its one man show so far and that man even isn't cpu collector. Also there are not good information sources and i cant know everything. I960 is somehow covered by cpu world database, but still there are 80960CA/CF/HA/HD/HT, 80960Cx, 80960JA/JC/JD/JF/JS/JT/VH, 80960RD/RM/RN/RP, 80960KA/KB/MC/SA/SB and undocumented 80960XA or 80962JY models. Thats too much. Now try find informations about differences, date of release, frequency range and process size at each model. It would take a week of work finding all this info, if its even available. If you give me that data i use in image, i will update it. If not, i will maybe take a look on it in future (months, years). But for me its more important now adding more companies, than cover every xy submodel with very hard to find info.
About 80186 - its even worse. Tell me what models are missing and info about them. I will add them. For example wiki doesnt know any models at all - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80186 . Cpu world database knows nothing too - http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/80186/MANUF-Intel.html . Maybe that ones with XL are some submodels? Dont know.
| Birdman. wrote: | | Then maybe late Intels could be less messy if Atoms and their Celeron and Pentium versions had their own branches, or maybe that just makes it all too high. |
Yeah, but its not final version. Id like to keep it compact as much as possible. Don't know how much space will take other companies. So dont care much now about it now. Theyre all lowend, so i will keep em together now. Image have almost 1m height now and limit for plotters is 1.6m. So i can move atoms from other, but will do when most companies are covered.
| Birdman. wrote: | | I hope that someone could help to fill the missing manufacturing process information. |
I hope too, but dont believe that much. So far people only pointed to some missing models, but noone posted any closer info. Its hard to find and takes too much time. At older models its also impossible, since that information is missing even in datasheets. Maybe if you find some insider working in that company.....
| Birdman. wrote: | | Then I'm wondering whether my die shots could be useful in some different tree version. I could also measure some die sizes with all the open chips if that information is interesting. |
You can always make your own subversion, just download source file, add images to cores and export it as html. It can contain even links to your site or images. But never tried this featue, so dont know how good it is. I dont use it because it show icon of image or weblink at every cpu that has assigned it and this increase image size and cannot be hidden when exporting image. So dont see reason to have icon of links in image, where are not these links active. If you do this, would be better split image into individual company trees.
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