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chipcollector
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| gshv wrote: | | chipcollector wrote: | | Since all internet connections in the WORLD no matter which provider are distributed from a server managed by the U.S Government. |
Only DNS root servers are managed by US, and if I'm not mistaken they're managed by Network Solutions, which is a private company. Internet by itself is not managed or controlled by US government.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/30/tech/main892400.shtml
You're probably right about Network Solutions owning DNS root servers, but the U.S Government tells them how to direct their traffic. So I guess that means they do control the internet. 
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| debs3759 wrote: | If I hadn't given up on my ex, I'd have moved to France - 20Mb for about 15€! I'm surprised nobody so far has admitted to having that  |
Because, 20Mb is for big cities only.
Moreover, this price (15€) is only for 6 first month and doesn't include modem location, unlimited phone, TV,... etc.
With everything, it is more likely 30€/month in France... |
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debs3759
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| chipcollector wrote: | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/30/tech/main892400.shtml
You're probably right about Network Solutions owning DNS root servers, but the U.S Government tells them how to direct their traffic. So I guess that means they do control the internet. |
Ah, now I understand better what you are saying. I think we have both read the same basic information but have interpreted it defferently. On the link you provide above it says:
"At issue is who would have ultimate authority over the Internet's master directories, which tell Web browsers and e-mail programs how to direct traffic."
"That role has historically gone to the United States, which created the Internet as a Pentagon project and funded much of its early development. The U.S. Commerce Department has delegated much of that responsibility to a U.S.-based private organization with international board members, but Commerce ultimately retains veto power. "
How I read that, the US government commerce department have ultimate power over the master DNS directories, retaining the power of veto. I don't see anything that indicates that they ever use that power, only that there is concern that some future government would be in a position to put restrictions in force that would affect how we would or would not be able to acess certain areas of the internet. So the statement that the US governemtn tells Network Solutions how to direct traffic is not strictly speaking true, they only have the power to do so if they were to choose to.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Verisign operates the master root server ("root-server A"), which is in influence of the U.S. department of commerce.
But there is an alternative root-system in europe for the case that the conection to U.S. fails.
http://european.de.orsn.net/about.php
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Hippo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| chipcollector wrote: | Since all internet connections in the WORLD no matter which provider are distributed from a server managed by the U.S Government.
USA= 1
Everyone else=0
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Another classic example of how the US thinks they need to control the world. Im just waiting for the US to piss someone off powerful enough to have a go back, like china..
TBH if the US did turn off the root DNS servers there would be backups switched on all over the world within hours. The worlds govenments wouldnt allow the US to do such a thing. So I think its more like USA 1 - 1 Everyone else
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24Mbit adsl for the moment, cost: $50/month
Will upgrade to 100Mbit cable in the near future for the same price. 
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Hippo wrote: | | chipcollector wrote: | Since all internet connections in the WORLD no matter which provider are distributed from a server managed by the U.S Government.
USA= 1
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Another classic example of how the US thinks they need to control the world. Im just waiting for the US to piss someone off powerful enough to have a go back, like china..
TBH if the US did turn off the root DNS servers there would be backups switched on all over the world within hours. The worlds govenments wouldnt allow the US to do such a thing. So I think its more like USA 1 - 1 Everyone else |
America's the strongest country in the world.
USA-2
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| chipcollector wrote: |
America's the strongest country in the world.
USA-2
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But you still suck in ice-hockey! Olympic gold for Sweden today!!!! 
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Cpuswe wrote: | | chipcollector wrote: |
America's the strongest country in the world.
USA-2
World-1 |
But you still suck in ice-hockey! Olympic gold for Sweden today!!!! |
 
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| chipcollector wrote: |
America's the strongest country in the world.
USA-2
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Is this going to turn into a Redneck battle for supremacy? OR is it the Cold War starting up all over again?
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| debs3759 wrote: | | chipcollector wrote: |
America's the strongest country in the world.
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Is this going to turn into a Redneck battle for supremacy? OR is it the Cold War starting up all over again? |
I live in the east coast (New England).
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| debs3759 wrote: | Redneck battle for supremacy?
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lmao!!!! hardcore
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