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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: More nightmare (hard to identify) LSI chips, and a VLSI Reply with quote

Hi, can you help identify these? I did not find datasheets for any of them. LSI's site does not seem to have any information about these chips. I suspect they are not CPUs, as ASICs are LSI's primary business. Speculation and pondering welcome.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are from a SGI board. I have a board with all of these chips except one of them on it and they are the exact same.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All chips from LSI with "L1Axxxx" or "L1Bxxxx" marking are ASIC?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does "BMA" and "SCIP" on the bottom 2 refer to function?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One would think so. The triangles suggest military specification, and so maybe military communications functions.

Maybe Berlekamp–Massey algorithm and Secure Communications Interoperability Protocol?

Perhaps these are NATO parts.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A majority of LSI chips have the triangle. I have always wondered why since many of there chips are obviously not mil-spec. I am sure someone knows Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely different manufacturers would not always use the triangle symbol for the same purpose? Does it always mean milspec? I understood not from something I was told in the past about a chip I thought to be milspec...

EDIT:

I see Brennan replied while I was still writing. Good to know I was not totally off the mark Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I am probably wrong then.

See what happens when you start searching on acronyms? You start to think that you actually know something.

Do any of LSI's chips feature a heart symbol, or a clover leaf? Those would be really great!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon wrote:
well, I am probably wrong then.

See what happens when you start searching on acronyms? You start to think that you actually know something.


I have done the same thing Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: SGI acronyms Reply with quote

Hi,
you're right, acronyms on LSI chips manufactured for SGI refer to the circuit's function. I have a "BMA" mounted in a SGI R4400 CPU card. I guess it's a sort of bus interface/controller (it's mounted near the backplane bus connectors).
If You have a L1A9136 marked "CC REV C (c) 1993 SGI" I'm sure, it's a cache controller used in IP19 CPU cards.
"SCIP" is a chip used in SGI Challenge and Onyx systems (see: http://schrotthal.de/sgi/onyx/newio4+scip.html). SCIP means "SCSI Channel Interface Processor" (http://www.users.csbsju.edu/~jgramke/Newsletters/IOLhtml_Mar96.html).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paolo,
Thank you, that is very helpful information.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one more LSI monster! This one came with a bag of components, and it is a multi chip module. When I took it out of the bag, I was excited to see this very large and beautiful MCM. It is about 58x58 mm, (2.25x2.25 in.)

It reads: SGI92 235-15, so I think it must be from another SGI device.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then, I turned it over to see the pin side.

So sad. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favourite chip too Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon wrote:
Then, I turned it over to see the pin side.

So sad. Sad



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