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feipoa

Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Posts: 553 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:35 pm Post subject: Cyrix Media GXm-300GP 2.9V. Real or fake? |
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| What do you think, the real deal? |
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Mixeur

Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 4038 Location: Sochaux, France
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feipoa

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Why do you think its fake? _________________ The only thing I hate more than straightening CPU pins is having CPU's with bent pins in my collection. |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Mixeur wrote: | the real fake  |
That one can be genuine my friend but I'm not sure of that too
Font on this example looks legit to me. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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feipoa

Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Posts: 553 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| I also thought it looked genuine. I haven't come across a -300 which looked genuine before. I'm planning on testing it to determine if it is genuine. I know my -266 chips won't run at 300 MHz. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Looks ok to me, thats made in Nationals R/D fab in Santa Clara
R3JE28???
R = Santa Clara
3 = Rev 3.x (first National version)
J = Assembly location, which I havent seen used before
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feipoa

Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Posts: 553 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. So these were indeed fabricated?
Anyone ever see the -300 in a motherboard? |
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Mixeur

Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 4038 Location: Sochaux, France
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| feipoa wrote: | | Why do you think its fake? |
Because I don't think it was really released.
OK, it is mentionned in the databook, but I've never seen one, I don't know anyone who has one, and moreover if you type Media GXm-300 in google, you just find nothing (whereas it is relevant for all other speeds)...
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adamajer

Joined: 23 Oct 2018 Posts: 403 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks genuine to me, go one in my "not so well organised" collection, I'll dig it out and take some pics |
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feipoa

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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you find your chip? |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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feipoa

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| Why do you suppose that is? Is this a high dollar yield collectors chip? |
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Neology

Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2412 Location: VIC, AU
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:36 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it is fake for the collection perspective.
It is more likely to be faked two decades ago, selling more expensive for use. _________________ Want List
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feipoa

Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Posts: 553 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:09 am Post subject: |
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This came in the mail today. Think it will work at 300 MHz?
There is an ominous warning in the GXm databook,
| Quote: | | The SDRAM clock is a function of the core clock. The SDRAM bus can be run at speeds that range between 66 MHz and 100 MHz. The core clock can be divided down from two to five in half clock increments to generate the SDRAM clock. SDRAM frequencies between 79 MHz and 100 MHz are only supported for certain types of closed systems and strict design rules must be adhered to. |
There is only a divide by 3 or 4 option in the BIOS. I currently run the 266 MHz GXm with divide by 3, so the SDRAM is running at 89 MHz and it appears OK. Running the 300 MHz GXm with the SDRAM at 100 MHz (300/3) may be pushing it though. |
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feipoa

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I have tested the GXm-300. It works fine at 266 MHz, but at 300 MHz, I can only get it to boot into DOS, not windows, nor run DOS Quake stable. Same problem if I use the SDRAM divide by 4 and only install 64 MB. The chip doesn't get hot at all. I suspect the issue may be related to the current draw and that the onboard VRM may not be able to cope. I'd have to look up the datasheet to confirm this, but...
When I use a GX1-300P chip, which I think is also quite rare in the PGA flavour, I am able to boot into Windows at 300 MHz. This chip, though, is a 2.0 V chip and I'm running it at 2.1 V. So perhaps I could try to undervolt the GXm-300. I've already tried running it at 3.1 V. |
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