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mvortikar



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Witness the madness... Reply with quote

168.00 + 15.00 shipping for a P4004!

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Intel-4004-The-First-Microprocessor_W0QQitemZ8735059117QQcategoryZ1247QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hmmm. Doing the math:

p4004 - $5-10
Frame - $10-20
"Artwork" - Cost of printing color pictures on "archival" paper - $3
Picture Hanger - $2
Signature - Free
Plus 1 time cost of a digicam / macro lens and minimal time investment.

That's a pretty impressive profit margin. I'm tempted to sell my whole colletion(after printing off a few chip die pics and specs for effect) to the bidder and retire in Bermuda!

To the seller's credit, it is a cool presentation and fantastic way to pull the wool over the eyes of the uninformed. Buyer beware...

-Mvort
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Emery (who does these) does a very nice job (and is a collector himslef)
Tis art, you are paying for technical art, not merely a frame and a chip.

Would I buy one?
Probably not, but thats just me.

The Mona lisa is worth millions. in materials it is worth pennies.

Art is art. is it madness? depends on your point of view I suppose

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is good idea of new art. Mona Lisa is beautifull work but new ones I don't understand : some spots and lines and that is worth 50 000$ or more Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Without him starting this form of art, would you know that this would actually sell? We might think this is madness, but sometimes madness brings innovation = new business = $$$. That's how many people got rich. When Bill Gates start programming MS-DOS and decided to quit Harvard, other people might think he is crazy too.

You might argue that he could have lower the price; well, Microsoft & Intel could have lower their MSRP to reflect the actual cost, too. The fact is that everyone wants money. It's just some people want it more than others do, and they don't mind being savage to get it.

You might think it's stupid to pay that much to buy that work; hey, 50 years later, if Steve Emery becomes famous and that work is being sold for US$50,000 on Forbes. You might call youself stupid that you should have got youself one.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve sold a lot of these artworks, so the success proofes he is right.

I'm just a little envious it was not my idea;-)

... as an IT guy that has his roots in graphic design ...

good luck Steve!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hey, 50 years later, if Steve Emery becomes famous and that work is being sold for US$50,000 on Forbes. You might call youself stupid that you should have got youself one.


I sincerely doubt this would be the case.

For example:
I can slap a 1943 steel penny into a frame, take a nice "artistic" macro picture, provide some history of why it isn't copper, and sign the back as "artwork". Just because the majority of people have never seen one before, the knee-jerk reaction may be to buy it for $168 + 15 shipping. After you do some homework, you find that the penny itself is only worth $5-10. Would you consider yourself a bit used?

In 50 years, I believe it's an established fact that some of our collections are going to be in the Smithsonian, which by the way, has a piss poor section on computer history if you've ever been there. Museums are very capable of taking "artistic" pictures themselves if they need them(especially after 50-year's worth of tech evolution).


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Tis art, you are paying for technical art, not merely a frame and a chip.


Understood. However, I'd be interested to see how much the "art" actually sells for without the chip. You wouldn't break $50 I'm willing to bet. Again, no discredit to Steve, it is nice work. The point I'm trying to make is, the uninformed buyer(probably the majority of people who don't collect CPU's religiously) is probably under the impression that the chip is actually the bulk of the cost, just as they might think the penny is the bulk of the cost. So, I say again, buyer beware! Wink

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The Mona lisa is worth millions. in materials it is worth pennies.

Taking a nice picture is one thing. If this came with a PAINTING of a chip die, THEN I can see it being worth that much.

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I'm just a little envious it was not my idea;-)


Heh, I guess it boils down to this. Time to start framing and BSing about those steel pennies! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great points M-vort! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brick wall
Mr. Green
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think what you want, everybody needs money for his hobby...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. I think that is quite cheap to be fair. And a very good idea. Personally I'd lik one up on my wall by my CPU collection Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was me by the way
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have bought the thing if the chip had been white Very Happy

I think that the people buying his artwork probably are computer nerds that want something to hang in their office to show off the fact. Or they have a computer type business and what would be cooler than old computer chips on the wall Very Happy

I wouldn't want to buy one as I am cheap! but I would love to get one for Christmas. hint hint...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one sold... god I love his business...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=8735059117

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats funny, I was gonna say exactly that. I have plently of Pentium 1 Chips. All in good nic too!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who hasn't?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... but nobody has them in a nice arty professional frame on the wall!
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