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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:29 am    Post subject: First question in my mind in regards "BLACKBOOK" o Reply with quote

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Is there any guide/younameit for chip collectors, similar to coin/stamps (numezmatic/filatelia) collectors guide?

lets say, if there is none, then, is there more complete information about rarity of chips, so far i have found only one useful infosite http://johnorun.x86-guide.com/en/collection/Intel-Pentium+III.html at the bottom it says which chip is rare and so on.

Any info would be appreciated.

p.s. and where comes the thin line between collectible chips and not
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Holy Grail quest?

My best to King Arthur!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a vintage collectors guide written by George Phillips Jr. http://www.cpushack.com/2010/01/14/the-collectors-guide-to-vintage-intel-microchips/

The big difference between collecting stamps/coins and chips is that there are about 100 years more experience to collect stamps/coins. Chips has only has been available since the 70:s and organized collecting has just begun a few years ago, thanks to this forum. We are in the very early stages of a new hobby and the collectors here are the ones shaping the foundation of the future of chip collecting. So naturally there are few guides since our hobby still changes every day.

Just that we are so few (a couple of hundred at best, less than 100 active online) collectors makes it hard to create a collecting guide, since in that small group are as many fields of collecting. A chip that i can pay $50 for is merely worth the gold content for another collector. And what chips to collect changes every week. New chips are found every week that completely changes the history of a family of chips.

An example, a few years ago i paid $40 for what was the first known Fujitsu-made Pentium. Never seen before, and jaws dropped when found. After that they began to surface and can now be bought almost at the gold value.

When starting my project at www.chipdb.org i had a stamp-collector catalog as a inspiration. A catalog of every chip known. The work for now is to organize and harvest images. I have another project in the works, which maps ebay auctions to the chips in the database. A sort of collecting guide it will be. Mixeurs work at x86-guide.com is another great project. The problem with the rarity guide on x86-guide.com is (what i understand) one mans opinion. Probably accurate, but for example, Pentium III chips are not actively collected in the same way as a early 8080 or C4040 since they until recently had a market value. And the newer the chip the more manufactured and less attractive to collect. Im not sure if anyone here has Pentium III as their main objective. Many has them in their collections but few will choose a PIII over a 8008,4040,386 and so on.

Thats my view on chip-collecting... the short version Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: First question in my mind in regards "BLACKBOOK& Reply with quote

max3 wrote:
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Is there any guide/younameit for chip collectors, similar to coin/stamps (numezmatic/filatelia) collectors guide?





No. Other than the Intel Guide for Collectors, whish is rather useful for pre x86 cpu.

CPU Shack is pretty good as well.

As is cpudb.org.


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lets say, if there is none, then, is there more complete information about rarity of chips, so far i have found only one useful infosite http://johnorun.x86-guide.com/en/collection/Intel-Pentium+III.html at the bottom it says which chip is rare and so on.




Rarity observations are totally pointless. There have been many discussions as to rarity AND PRICE, so I wont re-tread the wheel here, other than to say...


1- EBAY IS NOT A GOOD INDICATOR OF PRICE


Your stuff is only worth what someone wants to pay for it, when collectors with fat wallets have had their fill, the price drops to peanuts.


2- EBAY IS NOT A GOOD INDICATOR OF RARITY

There have been many occasions where previous "mega-hyer-intergalactic RARE" cpu have flooded onto the market... 486 SX-16's.. 487, 386-12.. etc.

Finally...

3- If I have a chip, and you dont have it ( and more importantly, you WANT IT), then my chip is MEGA-Infinity Squared-RARE, and I wouldnt even trade it for the keys to a new Mercedes SLK and a long weekend with your hot sister.

4- IF we both have the same chips, then they are not rare, but to anyone else rule (3) applies.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all !
I am relatively fresh to collecting chips, but have lots of years collecting stamps and coins, so i totally understand what was explained. My question actually was more towards posting at the right thread and not to be banned or post removed due to misplace... As of pictures i can get pretty much anything that comes through me, i have a buddy who own a recycling company in Colorado and Wisconsin, so i see lots of things, for example i have some chips that are listed here on cpu world but no picture available. Also, there are few collectors from www.rom.by ( former USSR) who might have something that is missing here.
Anyways, i find this website and forum very interesting and usefull and will continue to use it for chip identification. It is funny, that for some intel/amd chips, cpu world pops up BEFORE intel or even INSTEAD of intel site in google search.

Peace to all !
and good karma for all your cpus!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you want doesnt exist, and cant, but what you do have here on this forum is a wide net of collectors with a lot of knowledge/access to resources.

The best thing to do is to post pictures of anything you want identified, valued or even sold.
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