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slumba
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: AM2764DC - Is that gold in the EEPROM window |
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I am sure I am showing my newbie-ness here - I was going through some old ISA boards and came across a MIDI controller that has this chip on it with the sticker already removed.
Beside it is a larger socketed chip made by Signetics under license from Intel I guess (says (c) Intel 1980).
Is that really gold under the window? |
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Chiefish

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 2153 Location: Northwest N.J. U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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if I could see it I might be able to tell you yes or no.  _________________ "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." A.E. |
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slumba
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: best shot I could get via webcam |
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| This is the best I could get via webcam ... does it have enough detail? |
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JAC

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think that thing under the die is called a "die attach" to mount the die into the cavity.
Is it gold.. no.
And it is not an EEPROM, it is an EPROM.
The extra E is for Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory.
From wiki...
Comparison with EPROM and EEPROM/Flash
The difference between EPROM and EEPROM lies in the way that the memory programs and erases. EEPROM can be programmed and erased electrically using field electron emission (more commonly known in the industry as "Fowler–Nordheim tunneling").
EPROMs can't be erased electrically, and are programmed via hot carrier injection onto the floating gate. Erase is via an ultraviolet light source, although in practice many EPROMs are encapsulated in plastic that is opaque to UV light, and are "one-time programmable".
Most NOR Flash memory is a hybrid style—programming is through hot carrier injection and erase is through Fowler–Nordheim tunneling. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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johnorun

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| JAC wrote: | I think that thing under the die is called a "die attach" to mount the die into the cavity.
Is it gold.. no.
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JAC, are you positive that Gold surface under the die isn't some type of Gold Plating?
Most scrappers love these for the gold scrap content and I always thought these "gold" ones were special.  _________________ My collection list (growing) http://johnorun.x86-guide.com/en/collection.html |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Is fools gold lol _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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CPUShack

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slumba
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| doccybrown wrote: | | Is fools gold lol |
Hey I resemble that remark!  |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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lol ok no offence here just the name of
"false gold"
Although there could be indeed a very small
amount of gold in the coating. But manufacturers
learnt very fast to do gold coatings as thin as possible
so probably if gold only a few atomlayers thick.... _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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JAC

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| doccybrown wrote: | lol ok no offence here just the name of
"false gold"
Although there could be indeed a very small
amount of gold in the coating. But manufacturers
learnt very fast to do gold coatings as thin as possible
so probably if gold only a few atomlayers thick.... |
or if you are selling scrap for gold recovery...
"MEGA HUGE THICK PLATE GOLD RECOVERY" |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hehe, yeah thats good advertising! But would be only
true for old gold-plated stuff to be honestly....
However this is how you can earn some bucks
to refinance your hobby! Got somthing by €150 on
ebay some time ago for a similar lot of golden contacts plus
some board cuts. I am not sure if it was worth so much....
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| doccybrown wrote: | Got somthing by €150 on
ebay some time ago for a similar lot of golden contacts plus
some board cuts. I am not sure if it was worth so much....
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Sell it to "cutabove". He processes this type of material.  |
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