intel or amd

[noname]

so im building a computer out of whatever parts i have left form my older computers. n ive come to a predicament, on one hand i have a gigabyte ga7zx-1 mobo with a 1.3ghz (13x100) duran, n then i have a septre sc394xa mobo with a p3 1ghz (7.5x133). which one is better?

[D.8080]

Do the motherboards support ddr?

edit:

I checked and they don't support ddr. I'd go with the duron, but it's like a tie to me, one has less cache but more juice...

Depending on what you want to do with them, maybe the larger P3 cache could be more interesting, or if mhz oriented, the amd would prove better.

If you want it for a donkey server I'd prefer the P3.

[noname]

im building it for my brother, no ddr as u already stated just sd. hell be using it for music, the occasional movie here n there, forums like these, youtube, mostly media/internet.

i was thinking the intel since it might run cooler but when i was using the duron way back when it never got hotter than 45 Celsius, while the intel did reach 50-55 sometimes in the summer. also i was thinkin the intel might be a bit faster since it has more cache and more fsb. but with the duran i know it runs stable 1.43ghz (13x110)

thanks for anymore advice

[Tetrium]

It's possible to unlock the duron, having it run on 133Mhz fsb without needing to overclock it which helps it with one of it's drawbacks compared to the P3.
Also your board is made by Gigabyte. I never heard of a septre motherboard? Unless the Gigabyte has the caps problem I'd pick the Gigabyte.
Another advantage of the Gigabyte is it will support much faster processors (depends a bit on revision) and since faster XP's are easy to find, you can upgrade the CPU later easily.
With the P3 you're probably stuck at 1Ghz (unless your board supports Tualatin, which, when picked randomly, 9 out of 10 s370 boards don't).

I'd go with the duron computer, if only because it's easilly upgradable later

[D.8080]

The board has a bios that supports Xp cpus up to 2000+ .

This is a build with old spares just to have a working machine.
A duron is the best choice so far.

as Tetrium suggests, look for "duron unlocking" on the net, you'll find guides and videos on youtube.

For your brother's needs it's good enough. Unless he expects to run Crysis

[noname]

u seem to be more experienced in this matter, but unfortunately the board doesnt support athlon xps, well it does since i used to run a 2400+ on it at 1500mhz, it simply crashes if the fsb is higher than 113mhz, so im stuck with duran since sse is a necessity now days. he might play a few games like live for speed, and i know for a fact its not that bad on games since i used to run the system before. so the duron is the best option, and i yes will look into duran unlocking. thank you

[noname]

if i was to go with the gigabyte, then i was thinking either buy another xp chip, kind of a waste but i think itll be worth

either a 2400+ or a 2600+
so that way i have either 1.5-6ghz
1.25gb ram
geforce 2 ultra (only car i have left)
i think that would work out good.

[max3]

[noname]

im trying to build it with minimum cost, so what expenses im lookin at so far r just the processory which is around 15 dollors canadian off ebay - for an athlon xp 2400+.

why gf2u u ask? well its the only card ive got left, and i dont plan on buying another, if it ends up i have to buy many other things i will just purchase a used computer it self for around 250 canadian. i know my friend got his computer for 200 - dual core 1.6ghz, 1gb ddr2, geforce 6800, 200gb sata hdd.

[max3]

thought you are planning to buy gf2u, but i see that you have it already.

[D.8080]

It's a pc made with leftovers, it's old stuff but working...
Don't stress on what you could buy, pointless and tiring.

Just build that damn thing and make your brother happy, he'll remember that and be happy of it

If you happen to run into some cheap vid card in the future buy it, or some bargain on ebay... sometimes you find good stuff at garage sale's price

[Tetrium]

@noname

What revision is your Gigabyte board?

According to this:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_Model.aspx?FAQID=283&ProductID=1371
your board should support 133Mhz fsb socket A cpu's
trying to run your board at 114Mhz fsb will overclock most of it's components. If you were to unlock the duron and run it at, say, 10x133Mhz you'll be running your duron at 1333Mhz, only very slightly overclocked, yet will have the benefit of the higher fsb and memory access
Running at 133Mhz is actually more stable then running at 114Mhz, the last setting will overclock almost all components on the board, including PCI and AGP bus. This could be why your board won't run stably at that setting.

If you were to get some (veeery common) XP Palomino or lower end thoroughbreds you should be able to run at 133Mhz fsb without any problems (provided your memory is PC133 spec)

Good luck!

[noname]

yes hes happy, hes using it right now lol, but i do plan to buy another t-bred 2400+, well its already been ordered off of ebay, 12 dollors canadian with shipping and tax

i cannot remember right off the top of my head, but i know its definitely not 5.x or 5.1. i think its 1.x actually, and if i remember correctly gigabyte says for my revision some boards have reached 133fsb with stable behavior, while others havent, use at your own risk kinda thing.

also, i tried to a palomino core, it caught fire (just smoke no flame) under the heat sink, so i told the guy it blew up, he gave me another one, first one was 1800+ second one was 2100+ but do note i only tried to run on 100fsb. the 2100+ burnt, very bad smell no post for either. but t-bred 2400+ worked fine at 1500 mhz, but not 2000mhz, no post on 2000mhz.

[noname]

correction ---

my mobo is a ga7zx-1 to which no revision of the board stably supported 133fsb, it was in fact only ga7zx (not -1) rev 5.1 which supported 133fsb.

but while most of the boards are able to run t-breds, gigabyte has no support for t bred cores and states none of the listed boards will run them.

[Tetrium]