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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Neon

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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Neon_WA, I just found one of these. Running it right now, it is CPUID=612 revision C2
So it seems to be Argon core, the same as C
Date code is 0025, in agreement with your observation.
I will put a scan up in the next few days. |
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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | So it seems to be Argon core, the same as C
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Good to confirm that
I presumed it was an Argon core by the size of the die... but why mark them with an R  _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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Chook

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 2250 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Just to confuse the collectors of course!  _________________ General failure reading disk in drive A
Who's General Failure and why is he reading my disk? |
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CPUShack

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Neon

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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Since I have only this one, I do not plan to take this one apart.
Do you think R may stand for reworked? |
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CPUShack

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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | Since I have only this one, I do not plan to take this one apart.
Do you think R may stand for reworked? |
yup thats my guess _________________ New for 2025! The CPU Shack has a co-processor!
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Neon

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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Here is un photo de la top edge |
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gshv

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Neon_WA

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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have 2 sitting at Avicc.
One is to strip down and compare markings on the PCB with a normal 550, but will have to wait till i get them shipped to me.
These are being sold at one place as "Refurbished by the Manufacturer"
Genna if they interest you let me know and I will pass the link to you or you can get it off Neon
this site gives a good method to open slot A cartridges without destroying them
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Neon

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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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R could stand for "reworked", meaning it was a nonworking unit that got returned.
The faulty component was then removed (desoldered) and replaced with a good one, the repaired unit tested, and a cartridge with R label attached.
That is why CPUShack asked if some of the surface mount components have different dates from the cartridge |
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gshv

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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | These are being sold at one place as "Refurbished by the Manufacturer" |
Is it Compuvest?
Gennadiy |
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Neon

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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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gshv, yes it is Compuvest.
My curiosity exceeded my caution. As this was my first attempt to remove PCB from cartridge, there was some damage to the cartridge, and only a few light scratches to PCB.
The date codes:
Cartridge: K7550MTR51B R 230025507634
CPU: K7600CURAFC R 9947APMW 91027340100 26650
L2 Cache: NEC D432937GF-A31-H 0011K7019
L2 Cache: NEC D432937GF-A31-H 0016K7005
PCB: PWB1000034-010 0020-4090
None of the CPU or L2 cache components are newer than the PCB date, so there is not obvious evidence of rework.
However, note the CPU is marked as 600 MHz, so perhaps R means remarked? |
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CPUShack

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debs3759

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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| CPUShack wrote: | | yah likely they took some returns, re tested them at a lower speed and stuck them in a new cartridge (and perhaps a new PCB even) |
Surely if both the cartridge and the PCB are replaced it would not be a repair/rework but it would actually be a new CPU as nothing would then be original? I am of course assuming that AMD would not have facilities to simply remove components from one board to put on another  _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
I can resist anything except temptation.
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