Athlon 3200 - temperature

[Shirl]

Hi

I recently got a Athlon 3200 and works great, but im wondering if my temperature is ok.

I got
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ - AXDA3200DKV4E

BIOS says its around 59/60 oC
Is this ok?

I put in a new PSU thats got a large fan incase that made it cooler in the area, tryed a small heatsink but that wasnt as good as my large one so put large one in again, I got 2 front fans, one in back, and exhaust fan, and another fan in case. put more paste on the CPU while i was changing heatsinks. I cant really do much more lol

So is around 60 ok?

thanks
shirl

[Cobracon]

If that's the 'idle' temperature, it's way too high. Is the base of the heatsink hot to the touch?? A bad sensor could give you an erroneous reading in BIOS.

One of my computers runs an Athlon 3200+ (different Socket than yours). It's overclocked 27% (from 2.2 GHz to 2.8GHz), and with stock cooling the 'idle' temperature is only 31C. Under a continuous 100% load the temperature never goes above 46C, and the heatsink is warm to the touch.

[shirl]

Hi

Yes the heatsink is hot to the touch, you can't keep your finger on it.

Idles at 57/58oC in BIOS i left it on BIOS screen a few mins
Its right because i got a temperature probe next to it says 55oC

What do you thinks causing it?
Anything i can do?
Will it still continue to work ok?

Im sure my 2800 i had before it wasnt as hot as this one.

I saw on the CPU page it said runs to 80oC, so does that mean i am still ok to run it at 60oC'ish if i cant get it lower?


thanks
shirl

[gshv]

85 degrees is the temperature on the die surface. Your motherboard probably measures the temperature underneath the CPU, where it's 20 - 25 degrees lower. Your temperature is very close to the maximum.

Gennadiy

[Chiefish]

First thing you would want to do is to remove and clean the cpu and heatsink, reapply thermal paste and reinstall the cooler. Make certain that the cooler is installed the correct way, if im not mistaken the cooler and socket for the cpu have a step in them and if they are assemble in the wrong manner the heatsink will not make good contact with the chip die. Also make sure that you only use a very small bit of thermal paste with that chip since it has a very small contact area with the heatsink.

[Cobracon]

There are numerous things that can cause your problem, but continuously running anything (car, boat, CPU, airplane, etc.) at or near the maximum safe operating temperature isn't good and will surely shorten it's useable life. It sounds to me like your heatsink compound is doing it's job since the heatsink is too hot to touch.

For starters, are the cooling fins clogged with dust?? Is the fan running slowly?? How about the CPU voltage, is it set too high?? Have you checked the CPU usage (%) at idle, is it abnormally high??

[Chiefish]

Definatly too much heat = short lifespan. The voltage is also a very strong possibility for generating excess heat.

[shirl]

Hi

I cleaned the CPU and heatsink, still the same.

these are the settings in bios regarding anything voltage.

PC Health Screen
Chassis Intrusion DISABLED
CPU Temp 57oC/134oF
System Temp 44oC/111oF
CPU Fan 2100rpm
north bridge 4500 rpm
V core 1.632
+5.0v 5.14
+12v 11.923
-12v 11.743
-5.0v 5.026
Battery 3.552v
+5v SB 4.896

Spread Spectrum DISABLED
(i tried in enabled)
FSB clock 200Mhz
CPU Ratio AUTO
Vcore 1.65
DDR Volt Auto
Dynamic Overclocking DISABLED
AGP Voltage AUTO

Ive still got my old 2800 CPU, but didnt really want to waste the money after i bought this new one

shirl

[shirl]

Forgot to say ...

If the processor ever did die of heat, it wouldnt damage the motherboard would it?

I think ill keep my old processor as backup!

Wish this would work cooler thou, it works great otherwise!

shirl

[Cobracon]

As long as the CPU temp didn't spike a good bit higher before it burned up, your motherboard will probably be OK.

Have you checked the CPU and Operating System usage % while the system is at idle?? Something is being overlooked (on my part) because with all the case fans you have, and unrestricted airflow through the CPU heatsink, there is no good reason your operating temps should be so high.

After the computer has run for an hour or so are the sides of the case very warm to the touch?? Check from top to bottom, paying close attention to the area around the power supply. With a system temp of 44C (which is also high), my guess is 'yes'. Generally, you should have a front to rear (or vice versa) airflow through the case. High internal case temps will obviously increase your CPU temperature if the HSF doesn't have a tube to draw in cooler outside (room) air.

Chiefish made an earlier suggestion that you clean/remove all of the old heatsink compound from the CPU and heatsink. You may need to do that. My guess then and belief now remains there is a good heat transfer occurring based on the 'to hot to touch' condition of your heatsink, BUT, that could still be a problem area.

Remember, what most people think is just the right amount of heatsink compound is waaaaay too much. If you go that route, there are specific Do's and Don't for cleaning this area and applying the compound. Excellent instructions can be found here: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2amdas5.html .

[shirl]

<<Have you checked the CPU and Operating System usage % while the system is at idle?? >>

Is this the setting on Task Manager?
When im not doing nothing it just goes from 0% to 2%

Ive been looking over the internet and i see someother people in different places say this processor gets hot.

Case is warm to the touch, ive got a metal case.
Jeantech Butterfly

Ive cleaned the cpu and heatsink and put new paste on.

I put a Cooler Master Blower Aero Fan, cable tied it to my CPUs Artic cooler fan, makes it slight cooler by 8/9 degrees. It blows down onto the cpu area.

shirl

[Cobracon]

If the 0% - 2% reading is coming from a box at the very bottom of the Task Manager display, that's good. If the same reading is coming from the System Idle Process line, under the Processes Tab, that's not good.

I haven't done any Google searches for your processor, but personally I'd classify CPU temps near the maximum safe operating range TOO hot.

How are the case fans (air direction) configured?? 3 drawing air in, 1 (plus the power supply fan) drawing air out, and the additional fan blowing onto the HSF/whole CPU area??

[D.8080]

Amd Athlon Cpus get hot, my Athlon 1400 goes up to 65-70°C like nothing and at idle never gets below 55°C, with a proper cooler and good thermal paste on.

Athlons get hot, what's the cooler you are using, the old one? Or a new one that is supporting Athlon Xp 3200+ cpus?

Could be, and be sure to have the proper airflow required to reach the optimal temperature inside the case. Try with the case opened (panel removed) and see how much does the cpu temp drop.

[Cobracon]

I'd have a heart attack if one of my CPUs climbed to 70C on a regular basis!!

[D.8080]

In fact I underclocked it to 100 fsb and 1.35V Vcore. Now it is around 33-35°C and 45-48°C under stress, but is a surfing/email/movie pc, so never under stress. A regular 1000 has the same Vcore.

At the beginning I thought I made some mistake, but of the two 1400 I have one gets hotter than the other. I guess its time is almost over...

Plus I guess some diode misreport is in too.