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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: C4040 ? |
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I have bought a mystery chip. I'm not sure if that is C4040 because prints were totally wiped off. Someone have a hardware to test it ?
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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lither
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1362 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: Re: C4040 ? |
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| Marcin wrote: | I have bought a mystery chip. I'm not sure if that is C4040 because prints were totally wiped off. Someone have a hardware to test it ?
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you can contact with wepwawet
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6633&highlight=4004+4040+test
he charge 5USD each chip 3years ago
by the way, i think you have P4040 or D4040 in hand
before test this chip
you can just check the resistance between random two pins of the chip
if it read the same ( Resistance between pin X and pin Y of P4040 = data of unknow chip)
it got a better chance to be C4040 |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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@Lither
Looks like a easy method to check I will let you know about results.
@CPUShack
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kosmokrator

Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 4085 Location: Athens-GR
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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yes looks promissing about c4040....but maybe a just early rom ....
test it ....  |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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...open the die core and i can check it with my microscope *lol*  _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| kosmokrator wrote: | yes looks promissing about c4040....but maybe a just early rom ....
test it ....  |
ROM ? I hope it isn't Intel C4008
| naked1300 wrote: | ...open the die core and i can check it with my microscope *lol*  |
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johnorun

Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 3364 Location: Chicago, IL- US
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Fluke 1953A Counter Timer that has a P4040 in a socket and it's working OK.
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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You can check it on your own by simply using a multimeter in
diode-test mode without damaging any testing hardware (and the chip)!
Check the pins for their breakdown voltages with
voltage source and drain-pins of the chip (first Vss and then Vdd-pins to
all remaining pins). If really a 4040 you will notice at least
that data/adress-bus pins and CMs have characteristical values
exactly where the pinout says there is something like that -
the same is for the status- and control-pins. _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Doccy. It looks like it is not C4040 :-/ I must search for C4008 pinout to be sure. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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grimm
Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Fairbanks AK
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:36 am Post subject: |
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That almost looks exactly like some of my chips here (take a look at the second picture):
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15039
I'm pretty sure that mine are chips made by NCR but I don't know anything about them. Also mine do not have any printing on the bottom, just the tops. _________________ Grimm |
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