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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: C4040 ? Reply with quote

I have bought a mystery chip. I'm not sure if that is C4040 because prints were totally wiped off. Someone have a hardware to test it ?



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think doccybrown does or did

If not I do

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: C4040 ? Reply with quote

Marcin wrote:
I have bought a mystery chip. I'm not sure if that is C4040 because prints were totally wiped off. Someone have a hardware to test it ?

you can contact with wepwawet
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6633&highlight=4004+4040+test
he charge 5USD each chip 3years ago Smile

by the way, i think you have P4040 or D4040 in hand
before test this chip
you can just check the resistance between random two pins of the chip
if it read the same ( Resistance between pin X and pin Y of P4040 = data of unknow chip)
it got a better chance to be C4040
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Lither
Looks like a easy method to check Smile I will let you know about results.

@CPUShack
Thanks. I will try lither's method first Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes looks promissing about c4040....but maybe a just early rom ....
test it .... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...open the die core and i can check it with my microscope *lol* Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kosmokrator wrote:
yes looks promissing about c4040....but maybe a just early rom ....
test it .... Smile

ROM ? I hope it isn't Intel C4008 Confused
naked1300 wrote:
...open the die core and i can check it with my microscope *lol* Shocked

You are talking about Texas Chipsaw Masacre 3 ? lol

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Fluke 1953A Counter Timer that has a P4040 in a socket and it's working OK.
If you still want to test it let me know...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can check it on your own by simply using a multimeter in
diode-test mode without damaging any testing hardware (and the chip)!
Check the pins for their breakdown voltages with
voltage source and drain-pins of the chip (first Vss and then Vdd-pins to
all remaining pins). If really a 4040 you will notice at least
that data/adress-bus pins and CMs have characteristical values
exactly where the pinout says there is something like that -
the same is for the status- and control-pins.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Doccy. It looks like it is not C4040 :-/ I must search for C4008 pinout to be sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That almost looks exactly like some of my chips here (take a look at the second picture):

http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15039

I'm pretty sure that mine are chips made by NCR but I don't know anything about them. Also mine do not have any printing on the bottom, just the tops.

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