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doccybrown

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: Competition: what was the first RISC-microprocessor? |
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Who made it and when was it introduced?
Do you guys have an idea?  _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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doccybrown

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I'll give some hints:
It has a very nice gold plated package!
The company that produced it that time does
not exist anymore but other derivated RISC-processors
are still produced by another company. _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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Tegranphos
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| 801 from IBM??? And it was never commercialized |
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Tegranphos
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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ok, if not exist then are Acorn computers, and ARM microprocessor who not comercialized. the ARM2 from 198x (x =5?) are the first comercial RISC processor _________________ My small x86 collection: http://tegranphos.x86-guide.com/en/collection.html |
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doccybrown

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Tegranphos wrote: | | 801 from IBM??? And it was never commercialized |
Very nice one, I wasn't aware of the 801 myself!
The ARM design is still eminent but I am sorry both
were not the first RISC-designs that were used in a
commercial microprocessor product. _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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gshv

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Signetics 8x300 had very simple instruction set with only 16 instructions. If I'm not mistaken, the processor had 8 general registers and all instructions were 16-bit wide. There is a datasheet for this CPU in Signetics manual, printed in 1976, so it was released before 1980.
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Tegranphos
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I search and found:
The 801 was never commercialized, but a derivative single-chip implementation, the Research/Office Products Microprocessor (ROMP) was used in IBM's first production RISC system, the PC RT (introduced, like the first PA-RISC system, in January 1986)
http://www.aallison.com/history.htm
My bad english and this web mean that the first RISC, if 801 is discard, are HP PA-RISC _________________ My small x86 collection: http://tegranphos.x86-guide.com/en/collection.html |
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Neon_WA

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: | Signetics 8x300 had very simple instruction set with only 16 instructions. If I'm not mistaken, the processor had 8 general registers and all instructions were 16-bit wide. There is a datasheet for this CPU in Signetics manual, printed in 1976, so it was released before 1980.
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designed by Scientific Micro Systems and called SMS300 but they never produced any for market
other choices are Moto's 14500B, MIPS Computer Systems R2000 or Fairchild's F8 _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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gshv

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | designed by Scientific Micro Systems and called SMS300 but they never produced any for market |
SMS300 maybe wasn't produced, but Signetics did make 8x300.
| Quote: | | other choices are Moto's 14500B, MIPS Computer Systems R2000 or Fairchild's F8 |
I'm not sure if F8 instruction set can qualify as "reduced". It was simple enough, but that was common in 1970s.
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CPUShack

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doccybrown

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:40 am Post subject: |
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No hit yet, I will give some more hints.
It is older than the 8X300 and it loves to crunch numbers  _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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UMMR

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| doccybrown wrote: | | Tegranphos wrote: | | 801 from IBM??? And it was never commercialized |
Very nice one, I wasn't aware of the 801 myself!
The ARM design is still eminent but I am sorry both
were not the first RISC-designs that were used in a
commercial microprocessor product. |
The first true single-chip incarnation of the IBM RISC projects was the ROMP CPU, used in the IBM RT-PC. The 801 is a direct ancestor of both ROMP and POWER processors. It isn't a true microprocessor, since it's realized with discrete SSI/MSI ECL components. The ROMP is a two-chip MOS design (CPU + memory controller).
The 8X300 IMHO is a excellent good candidate for the "1st RISC commercial micro" title: several different RISC experimental designs were made in the beginning of the '80s, but the 8X300 had been developed in 1974/5 and introduced in 1976. The concept of "load/store architecture" was introduced for the 1st time with the CDC 6600 supercomputer in 1964 (designed by Seymour Cray). Wikipedia lists the Data General NOVA among the first RISC-like microarchitectures (it's likely a citation form the well-know book of Hennessy and Patterson) - but it isn't a microprocessor!
Definitely my choice is the 8X300.
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doccybrown

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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The 8X300 was the first microprocessor that
had both a reduced instruction set and
a Harvard-architecture. But it was not the very first
microprocessor that had a reduced instruction set. _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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alexander
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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hello
General Instruments PIC1650 from 1977. |
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kosmokrator

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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lol.....i think i suspect...where u going this threat ....
but.....im silent  |
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