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polaris26
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 3 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:39 am Post subject: 1101 RAM - variants, applications, and modern substitutes? |
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Hello all - this is my first post in this forum. I am working on repairing a device that uses a variant of the Intel 1101 memory chip and I suspect that it isn't working correctly. The chip is actually marked as MM1101A/A1N and is I believe a National Semi part.
What I am trying to figure out is which variants of the 1101 will work in this circuit (I'm not sure an original 1101 would work), where would I likely find them (like if I had to purchase some scrap equipment to harvest them) and when was the last drop-in replacement chip made for this application? I know that's a lot of info, but there aren't many other web resources for this kind of thing. The device I am working on was made in 1975 so I am guessing there were other contemporary applications for this type of memory, but I don't know which to look for.
thanks greatly in advance,
Dave |
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magictom

Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 2281 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Welcome! Intel or AMD P1101A (or C1101A = ceramic) should work. How many do you need? |
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isa-d

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 2984 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Seem there isn't an exact equivalent
I don't know whats is the difference in the "Access Time" of µsF and µsR |
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polaris26
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 3 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the welcome, and the info! I guess I should explain a little more about what I'm working on.
It's a Tennelec MS-2 "Memoryscan" scanner, from about 1975. It uses an MM1101A/A1 to store the saved frequencies that you program one bit at a time with a "one" and a "zero" button.
In this application, the chip has to work with more or less TTL levels - the power supplies for the memory are +/- 6V. I have good power to the supply pins, the addressing counters are working and I have a write pulse to the memory, but the non-inverted and inverted output pins on the memory chip are forever stuck on +6V and -6V respectively, so I think it is probably fried
I am fairly sure that it isn't supposed to be putting out -6V at any time, but I don't have a data sheet. I isolated the outputs from the input to the shift register, but that didn't change the situation. By the way if someone has a comprehensive data sheet for the 1101 or MM1101 that would help immensely.
I would need at least one 1101 type RAM as a replacement as long as it would be compatible with the voltages - I don't think in this application that it has to work extremely fast.
By the way I'm not sure why I'm trying to fix this thing except that I got this far into it and would like to see it work again...
Thanks again,
Dave |
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magictom

Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 2281 Location: Hawaii
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polaris26
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 3 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Magictom for the data sheet!
Is there is a list of computers or related devices that used the 1101 memory chip? I am just trying to see if there is something I can source one from - I might even have something in my own hoard somewhere...
thanks again,
Dave |
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