New engineering sample, Suprise!

[chipcollector]

I bought myself a pentium 4 engineering sample, the Pentium 4 561. 3.6GHz 64bit enabled with 1mb of cache. I can't wait to see how this baby performs! I don't think it's even out yet. No reviews, nothing for sale. I tried newegg, with no luck.

Now that intel is keeping track of their employees that have the ES chips, you'll most likely not see another ES like this for a very very long time.

[Marcin]

My question maybe is not good but I'm curious - How much you paid for this baby ?

[xsecret]

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-Engineering-Sample-Socket-754_W0QQitemZ6792728157QQcategoryZ80139QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

$300

Not a bad price, but regarding the fact that these chips are the "old" Pentium (with 1MB L2 cache) only with EM64T enable, i would prefer a stock Pentium 4 6xx : 2MB L2 cache, EM64T and unlocked multiplier with EIST.

That's funny to see vendor's comments like this one : "This is the special Intel confidential cpu (better than oem). ". An ES is nothing more than a beta CPU, sometimes worst, but never better than the retail one. It does not overclock higher than a stock CPU, even more since stocks CPUs are now lock-free.

[Guest]

$300 isn't a bad price at all, it's actually really cheap. I sold my 560J for $280, so basically I paid $20 to upgrade to 64bit, and have the ability to acheive a very high FSB, thus ridding me of the videocard bottleneck

The guy had buy it now for $300, free shipping, but a reserve of $270 + 10 shipping. I had to have it

[LKG01A]

intel in 64 bits mode performs very poorly compared to a athlon64 in 64bits mode...

[chipcollector]

How do you know? Windows Vista retail hasn't been released yet But by lowering the multiplier, this cpu will perform better than your amd's

[LKG01A]

[LKG01A]

and i ve got the feeling that windows Vista (as they call it for the moment...) is going to be another Windows95 (BUGS, BUGS and MORE BUGS!!!)

[chipcollector]

There are always bugs at first, that's why there are service packs

[LKG01A]

yes but it's getting ridiculos... for W2K =>they are talking of an SP5 and for XP (32bits) an SP3

[skold]

i wouldnt celebrate until you have it in your hands.

you'll probably get an email from ebay regarding vero or something.. if intels cracking down on this sort of thing.

[chipcollector]

hehe then what? They will send their ebay and intel police to confiscate the processor from the seller? They are unable to do anything further than repeatidly send emails, anything more than that would be illegal.

[CPUShack]

[slava]

[LKG01A]

only problems with linux is theres not as many programs, and it's a nightmare to install a part from that, i admit that linux is A LOT more stable