Processor CPUID issues w/ E6 Venice/AMD ?

[Greybunny]

Couldn't find a proper"unilink" from this post I did from Anand/Tech earlier ... so just pasted it HERE Would appreciate ANY and ALL reads and info the group has [However], CPU World's CPUID Identifier (just found it like 20 mins ago) might just have the issue licked .. IF [moderator] can "flash" this post and verify that Line #9 of the Section 7/AMD Part numbers is a SLAM DUNK for the new E6 Venice being a SINGLE CORE ONLY, the you will have made a little ::greybunny :: VERY VERY happy ! SO MANY suppositions and half-hearted comments out there (including some from inside AMD) that a WAY TOO LARGE percentage of E6 singles are actually disable "TOLEDO" dual cores disabled due to faulty L2 cache traces. It's time this issue got SOLVED and broadcast to the folks in the $$$ lines buying them ! thanks for the ear ---

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Yikes !!! -- I guess THIS must be the right place for "confuzzled Noobies" ... huh ? [giggles] Rich -- addr this to U cuz you are showing ON and active while I am writing it -- hope that is OK ... YOU and "Birdpup" seem to be the "True Neolithic Gods" of the CPU world and as such, I would like to ask what I think MIGHT be the question of the lips of MILLIONS of not just noobs right now -- A source inside AMD (lives down the beach from me) .. indicated this last w/e that AMD routinely uses X2 - d/core chips for "under-revving" to whatever market is in the most need Ok ? (Good point Bird !!) The issue is THIS for me: with the choice made to use Venice 3000/3200 (not sure yet) for the base proc of my first new system in a VERY long time, my BOEING engineering side is telling me to be VERY careful about determining not THAT AMD is dumming down "TOLEDO"(s) to make their count for available Venice customers, but ...... WHY they are using "fault ridden/defective" d/c's to do it -- Don't get me wrong, I totally understand the bottom line decision to trash 500,000+ chips that show bad L2 caching -- that adds up to like $20,000,000 and even AMD doesn't have pockets THAT deep ! My issue is for MYSELF (and those OTHER customers) who simply wish to know they are buying "un-fooled with" gear, and opt for a "PURE SINGLE CORE Venice 3000/3200 Rev. E6 ... and our need for SOME POSSIBLE WAY .. I repeat SOME POSSIBLE WAY to identify w/o ANY shadow of a doubt ... which E6 Venices are single cores... and which are disabled TOLEDO(s) .. FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE CHIP !! The indication from the [current employee] is that ... THAT INFORMATION .. is buried in the ID/Serial # of EACH chip .. and a LONG discussion w/ AMD on the fone today found them ...Um ... LESS THAN WILLING .. to follow much of a discussion about this question. That's kinda it -- No one will EVER convince me that I shouldn't break out laughing if an AMD engineer were to tell me when asked to ID ANY chip of theirs ... that "I DUNNO" and they would have to crack it open to look !!! That is so INCREDIBLY beyond the pale of even CHILDISH REASON as to be ....... (fill in what seems right) !! [giggles] ... If YOU .. or ANYONE on this site has this answer and not just suppositional guessing (I mean those are fun to read too) BUT ........... I would love to hear how to do this and KNOW I am getting/buying the chip I am wishing/paying for !! ...

As a new member here, I hope this is NOT viewed as a "trash talk" response, but is taken as one of importance -- IF the issue were just OVER-PRODUCTION (for whatever silly reason), and the TOLEDO(s) are new... but just rendered "half alive", I could live w/ that -- But, the issue of "down-revving" chips w/ initial faults (i.e. BROKEN traces, etc) just goes against my grain as a RESPONSIBLE and LONG TIME Materials Engineer @ BOEING. Going back to the drawing board is NOT a death sentence for AMD regardless of whether they believe it or not ! @ BOEING -- trust me -- we live w/ that reality EVERY day ! Any response to this would be WARMLY and APPRECIATIVELY welcomed --------

:: greybunny ::

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