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skold



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: cpudb - Better Than Before Reply with quote

After the discussion in this thread, I decided to go ahead and set up MediaWiki on my site.

Quick summary: A 'One stop shopping' cpu site for images and information on cpus and related technology.. Yes, EEPROMs too!

I've set up MediaWiki and its running fine, though I'll probalby be making changes to the stylesheets for the next while. I don't have any interest in running forums, so the 'forum' link in the menu goes here..

I've created the first article, which should also serve as a good example of what I think we should go for here: http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/AMD_K7

All those red links are links to things that aren't done yet Smile So for example, someone could make an article describing what DDR is, or what SECC is, etc..

The license this is all under os the creative commons attribution license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ ... I think thats fine, but I'm open to suggestions!

You guys should be able to create articles whether youre logged in or not, but it'd be better to make an account and log in before making articles.. that way, theyre credited to you..

Any questions or comments?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's come to my attention that IE6 completely destroys this page. The menu and logo dont show up at all.... though the rest looks great! Razz

If you look at the source, youll see 'column-google' near the top.. If i take out that block, the menu and logo show up again.

Does anyone know WHY ie6 wont show them?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking great. Im not use to MediaWiki. Where on the mainpage are the "entrance" to the cpus? Where do i find your article example about AMD K7 if i stand att the main page?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, we need to MAKE the main page. so right now the only way to it is to search for it, or hit the random button once or twice (since theres only like 2 articles)

but later on, it'll look kinda like this: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page

with all sorts of categories and such.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.

Edit: If would like to try create a page, do i need to become an editor or something? (I have read the basics in the MediaWiki manual)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked out the CSS issues in IE, mostly.. The footer bar still shows up in the middle of the page but I'll work that out later, or maybe not ,because ie sucks and I don't care about it.

Anyhow, creating a new page.. First, please register.. You shouldn't need to, but it's better for everyone if you do. To register, just click on the link in the top right corner.

After that, let's say you want to make a new entry for a cpu.. For example a 486 dx-33 (i see cpuswe already uploaded a pic for one)

First, upload your pictures.. On the bottom of the menu on the left, you'll see a link for 'Upload File'.. Click on this and follow the steps. Put in a summary of the picture, like 'Intel 486 DX-33'

After your images are uploaded, create your article.. The easiest way to do this is to search for the article, for example 'Intel 486 DX' .. pay attention to capitalization and such.. this is how the article will appear.

You'll get a search page saying that the article doesnt exist (if it does, its already there!) .. youll also have a link to create the article. Click on 'create an article with this title'.

You'll now have an edit page for the article you want.

The quickest and easiest way to make an article would be to look up an existing article, such as the one I made for the K7: http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/AMD_K7

Click the 'Edit' tab at the top, and youll see the source for the article. Copy it, and paste it into your new article, then edit it to your liking!

Preview the article before submitting it.. All submitted revisions are viewable, so this way you wont have 80 revisions before you have a presentable article..

After you're satisfied with it, submit it! It's now live and on the site.

You can't use html in the arcticles, so here's some quick wiki markup that you can use:

'''Bold'''
''Italic''
[[Linked]]
[[Linked|With A Different Name]]

That's the basics.. You can also always head over to www.wikipedia.org and look at their articles.. Same thing, hit the edit tab and youll see the source, then just copy and paste..

One last thing, if you see a link in red, it means it links to a non existant article. For example, with my K7 listing, i linked a lot of keywords that I think should be explained.. However those articles dont exist yet. If you want to fill any of those out, just click on that link, and you'll be taken right to the edit page for it.

As for linking things, We don't want to go link crazy, and say, link every occurance of x86 or DDR or something.. Generally what I do is link them in each section.. For example I linked 'x86' in the sidebar, and also at the top of the article, but I didn't link it further down in the article.. I think this is a good practice.

I hope this helps you guys get started... I don't know too much about wiki myself but I'll try to answer any questions..
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, also, if you edit an article, please fill out the summary field.. that way people can see what you did at a glance on the recent changes page...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote up a full article describing how to create new articles for those of you interested in this :

http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/Help:Creating
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skold wrote:
I wrote up a full article describing how to create new articles for those of you interested in this :

http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/Help:Creating


Great writing.

Should we decide on what level and granularity the articles should be? Naming standard?

Start simple with a pictures, Mhz and model number ie A80486-SX33 A80502-133, and get some foundation to work with. The details come later?

I will try to make a page and se what it feels like.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go for as much as you want, or as little as you want.. the beauty is, someone else can come along later and expand on your article

heres the two 'best' articles so far.. ive been spending most of my time getting the technical details worked out, and making documentation..

http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/AMD_K7
http://www.cpudb.com/wiki/Off-Die_cache

one thing, for your intel 486 dx article, i think itd be better to make a general article on the 486 dx, instead of specifically on the 486 dx-33.. a dx-33 isnt any different than a dx-25 for example, so theres no reason to have two articles for the same thing heh
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skold wrote:
i think itd be better to make a general article on the 486 dx, instead of specifically on the 486 dx-33.. a dx-33 isnt any different than a dx-25 for example, so theres no reason to have two articles for the same thing heh


Ahh! created a bunch of articles the oposite way before reading this... Brick wall

I think we have two different goals here then. Mine was to create a collector site (for those who already knows what Mhz a 486 DX-33 has) and instead concentrate on other "collectable" information such as markings,colors,sspecs, odd chips,rarity and so on.

But lets see where cpudb land first!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you can still do that.. for example, listing all the sspecs, clock speeds etc of a 486 dx..

i just dont think they need to have their own articles.....

imo your articles should be busted down into 3 articles.. 486 dx, 486 sx, and 486 sx2..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. How do i remove the ones made?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you cant..

make a new article for like, Intel 486 DX and copy all the good pieces out of it, and ill take the others down when youre done Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: I'm trying to make it easier for you guys to make new articles Smile

If you search for an article now, say, for example, "Intel Pentium 4", and it doesn't exist, youll get a page asking if you want to create a new one, or, create it using a template. click on the 'New Processor' template, and you'll be taken to an edit page with all the tables and such already in it, and instructions on making an article... Just change the text, upload pics if you want them, and submit it Smile

I'll be making more templates later for other things
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