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vmr_

Joined: 01 Sep 2018 Posts: 530 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:59 am Post subject: Nx586 VLB & PCI questions |
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Hi,
Looking to join the Nx586 owners club - waiting for Nx586 VLB motherboard + P-90 CPC-101 + NxVL kit to arrive.
Hence, I am looking for some details/help on the following:
- what are the Nx586 CPU models supported by Alaris Nx586 VLB motherboard?
User manual states 80/90/100, but are these the CPC-101 or it includes CPC-102 models?
- any chance the motherboard supports the Nx586 with FPU (the PF/PE models)?
- from owners of Nx586 - what is the highest frequency Nx586 CPU used&tested on this motherboard?
- tips and tricks to keep in mind when building the Nx586 rig
* I collected a few resources already from the forum thanks to feipoa and High_Treason, searching more in the forum history
* is there a dedicated forum for Nx586 users you can recommend?
* same on drivers/tools availability availability
Thanks, vm |
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misace

Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 932 Location: Prague, Czechia
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Both VLB and PCI boards supports all Nexgen versions and speeds.
Edit: I havenť tested PF version in VLB motherboard. I thought someone told me here on the forum, but I didinīt find it, I also went through my private messages.
So I take my claim back and apologize.  _________________ Looking For Chips 386 J38605DX, Symphony FPU, Rise Tiger, MP6-II, Winchip 3&4, IDT C6-Early Logo, Nx686, Tesla 8088, L80C86, Bulgarian 8088, Pentium 4 QT69ES.
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vmr_

Joined: 01 Sep 2018 Posts: 530 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks misace |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| misace wrote: | | Both VLB and PCI boards supports all Nexgen versions and speeds. |
Are you sure PFxxx are working on VLB board too ? I have not tested it yet but I remember there were some issues. Please correct me if I'm in wrong. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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feipoa

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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Marcin wrote: | | misace wrote: | | Both VLB and PCI boards supports all Nexgen versions and speeds. |
Are you sure PFxxx are working on VLB board too ? I have not tested it yet but I remember there were some issues. Please correct me if I'm in wrong. |
I was also under the impression that PF models don't work on VLB Nx586 boards. Perhaps someone with can confirm via a test? Too risky for me. |
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vmr_

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misace

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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I can only confirm that FPUless version works well in the PCI board, I tested it a year before.
Also thereīs no mention about PF version in VLB motherboard user manual. _________________ Looking For Chips 386 J38605DX, Symphony FPU, Rise Tiger, MP6-II, Winchip 3&4, IDT C6-Early Logo, Nx686, Tesla 8088, L80C86, Bulgarian 8088, Pentium 4 QT69ES.
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vmr_

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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| misace wrote: | | I can only confirm that FPUless version works well in the PCI board, I tested it a year before. |
Thanks misace, any chance to test PF model on a VLB board? Or is it a risk of damaging any of the two? |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I have put one working CPU with big heatspreader to VLB board and it doesn't damaged mobo or CPU but it couldn't boot on different jumper configurations. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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vmr_

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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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The VLB motherboard manual states:
Supports NexGen Nx586 P80/P90/P100 microprocessors with 32KB internal cache
Marcin - can you confirm the CPU big heatspreader you tested was P110 or P120? |
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vinicio

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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I confirm what was written 15 years ago. For CPU with FPU, the PCI motherboard is needed. My tests did not damage my CPU. _________________ Fatti non foste a viver come bruti, ma per seguir virtute e canoscenza.
(Dante Alighieri, Inferno, Canto XXVI, 119 - 120) |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| vmr_ wrote: |
Marcin - can you confirm the CPU big heatspreader you tested was P110 or P120? |
Sorry for late answer but I missed that thread. Most of non-marked big heatspreader are P90 models. Like vinicio said those with FPU integrated needs PCI mobo for sure. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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vmr_

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feipoa

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vmr_

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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nope, but close |
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