Unmarked Intel ES chips?

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crazybubba64



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:12 pm    Post subject: Unmarked Intel ES chips? Reply with quote

Hi all, I recently put a couple unmarked Intel i7 mobile ES chips up for sale.

http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32481

I only managed to get one to work (It ended up being an i7-820QM ES).

CPUID dump: http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?CPUID=66269

Is there any reason these don't have any sort of part number or lot code? They seem to have a very basic sequential serial code, but nothing else.

Are these reject chips? early internal ES parts? something else entirely? The one that had a date code was very early in relation to the release of the final chip.

EDIT: The chip I got working might actually be an i7-840QM, as it was idling at 1.86GHz. I'll confirm this over the weekend. cpu-z was reporting it as an i7-820QM ES, but this may be incorrect.

EDIT 2: HWInfo64 reports the chip as a Q3B9 (QS)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can, please post a CPU-Z Validation dump. Thx!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xsecret wrote:
If you can, please post a CPU-Z Validation dump. Thx!


I will try to do this tomorrow afternoon.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xsecret wrote:
If you can, please post a CPU-Z Validation dump. Thx!


Here's the validation: http://valid.x86.fr/m4fs67

The bus speed seems to be running a little higher than its supposed to. Might explain the speeds being closer to the i7-840QM rather than the i7-820QM. There are no options to change the bus speed in the laptop's BIOS, so this must be some weird behavior of the chip. (maybe that's why it never got marked?)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got more of these. Won't be able to test the rest of them for a week or so, but another chip was reported as a Q3SE in hwinfo64, so maybe I'll get some more working.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got email back from Intel on those processors.

Apparently they're old engineering samples, and they were meant to be disposed of by Intel.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazyfortress wrote:
I just got email back from Intel on those processors.

Apparently they're old engineering samples, and they were meant to be disposed of by Intel.


That's the generic response you get every time you ask them about a sample. Interesting that it was from a real person this time, though.

https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/support/articles/000005719/processors.html

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

linuxfanatic wrote:
lazyfortress wrote:
I just got email back from Intel on those processors.

Apparently they're old engineering samples, and they were meant to be disposed of by Intel.


That's the generic response you get every time you ask them about a sample. Interesting that it was from a real person this time, though.

https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/support/articles/000005719/processors.html


Do they always say that the CPU was meant to be discarded?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazyfortress wrote:
linuxfanatic wrote:
lazyfortress wrote:
I just got email back from Intel on those processors.

Apparently they're old engineering samples, and they were meant to be disposed of by Intel.


That's the generic response you get every time you ask them about a sample. Interesting that it was from a real person this time, though.

https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/support/articles/000005719/processors.html


Do they always say that the CPU was meant to be discarded?


Yeah. They usually say it should have been discarded or destroyed and that they're not meant for sale, etc etc.

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