Intel 486DX-50 T and C

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:30 am    Post subject: Intel 486DX-50 T and C Reply with quote

Hei there,

someone can tell me the difference in this CPUs?

What means "C" and "T"?

Greetings

SX546 SX547

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be interested to see if they have different CPUID in between two here Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plant code maybe?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That should be on the backside...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the DX-50s are very odd chips, they run hot (always made me think the T/C had something to do with thermal/coller requirements.

THey also usually require extra wait states on motherboards to even work, which could also be denoted at least by the T

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other choice I had in mind.. is that a lot in their uncleaned state have had OEM stickers.

I am wondering if these OEMs requested additional testing of chips supplied to them & the letters defined compliance to the OEM order requirements

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its time to test.

If one CPU has extra wait states it should be measurable slower than the other one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very few cpuids in CPU-world database.. this datasheet is on chipdb.org

http://datasheets.chipdb.org/Intel/x86/486/Intel486.htm

in a few weeks I will download & add markings & other cpuid info from other sources & create a master spreadsheet of 486s
pretty sure Chook has a lot of additional info.. especially timeline info

SX408 is also same cpuid & is marked T. other Ts are SX705 SX710
SX409 unknown stepping? is marked C

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
the DX-50s are very odd chips, they run hot (always made me think the T/C had something to do with thermal/coller requirements.

THey also usually require extra wait states on motherboards to even work, which could also be denoted at least by the T


Wouldn't the wait states be required by other peripherals etc. on the main board to cope with the 50MHz bus speed?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

486DX-50 is also unique in that according to datasheet it uses more pins that all other i486 (where they are not used) and all corresponding signal names start with T.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frag_ wrote:
486DX-50 is also unique in that according to datasheet it uses more pins that all other i486 (where they are not used) and all corresponding signal names start with T.


Idea

Yes. A look into the datasheet. I should have this idea

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