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MisterMerlijn Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: cpu of 90Grades |
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is a p4 2.66 ghz with 86C too hot ?
i have already 5 Fans...  |
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JAC

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| yes, that is far too hot. Use a good heatsinnk like the copper zalman. |
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sammyc

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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make sure the heatsink is touching the chip properly _________________ 4000+ chips.
4004-P4. |
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JAC

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, thermal heatsink compound is important, but not too much. I always see idiots using too much thermal grease. You only need a pea sized amount spread over the cpu. |
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sammyc

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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and even 'pea sized' is an exaggeration _________________ 4000+ chips.
4004-P4. |
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JAC

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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how big are your peas? LMAO |
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debs3759

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I've always used an amount the size of a typical (uncooked) grain of rice, and I understand from reviews and tests I ahve seen that much more than that can actually have an adverse effect and prevent adequate cooling. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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Hippo

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| It depends on the core size and whether there is a heatspreader installed on the CPU but you only need a very thin layer of HSC otherwise it defeats the object of using it. |
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JAC

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| too much is better than none at all, but yeah.. a thin film is all you need. |
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FDIV

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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64 bit p4's are a real challenge to keep cool. The can eat up more than 100 watts of power I agree with JAC, the zalman with artic silver heatsink compound is the way to go for air cooling. As for your 5 fans remember, it is airflow that is important not number of fans. Make sure you have some sucking air into the case from the front or side and some exausting air from the case in the back. Also, don't lock that case in a confined area. I gets like an easy bake oven with a 100 watt light bulb. Good luck and keep that cpu cool. 86 degrees is not even close to acceptable for a cpu. Even for a graphics card that is too hot. |
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chipcollector

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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86C would be impossible as that 2.66GHz P4 would withstand a max of 55C before instability, or 65C if it was a prescott core. Odds are there's an incorrect reading of temperatures in your software
(Check the temps through the BIOS, let me know if it still says 86C). _________________ http://www.RareCPUs.com
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Vintage Chip Database, www.RareCPUs.com/database
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JAC

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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| chipcollector wrote: | 86C would be impossible as that 2.66GHz P4 would withstand a max of 55C before instability, or 65C if it was a prescott core. Odds are there's an incorrect reading of temperatures in your software
(Check the temps through the BIOS, let me know if it still says 86C). |
ah yes.. measurement error.. I have lost count the number of times that has bit me in the ass. If you are using a case with lots of wires and a flying temp prob, I would agree with chipcolelctor, check it out. You could be be getting elecrical noise messing up the readings - also check your power supply.
Check this out for more info..
Pentium M at 100 degress c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whopper.
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=maxtemp.shtml |
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jd

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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Well actually, your "max temps" should be at 65c anything over that and you are wearing your cpu out at an accelerated rate!
For a more acurate temp reading have you tried looking in your Bios? Go into your Bios at start-up, then check-out the temp reading in "system monitor".(Note, some are called differently).Your actual temp reading will be much more precise there, plus, if it's malfunctioning from within that point, you know you got a serious board problem ,which would be far more important to note then a simple "peasize" amount of compound and cooler problems
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chipcollector

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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| GlinGlin wrote: | Well actually, your "max temps" should be at 65c anything over that and you are wearing your cpu out at an accelerated rate!
For a more acurate temp reading have you tried looking in your Bios? Go into your Bios at start-up, then check-out the temp reading in "system monitor".(Note, some are called differently).Your actual temp reading will be much more precise there, plus, if it's malfunctioning from within that point, you know you got a serious board problem ,which would be far more important to note then a simple "peasize" amount of compound and cooler problems
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noooo!! thats incorrect! if your CPU is anything but even a few degrees over 55C/65C then it will crash and overheat, It will not run at all. I believe the CPU will start to melt at something like 100C? I'm not entirely sure, but the threshold is very close to that number. _________________ http://www.RareCPUs.com
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Marcin

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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: cpu of 90Grades |
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| MisterMerlijn wrote: | is a p4 2.66 ghz with 86C too hot ?
i have already 5 Fans...  |
Check grease between CPU and heatsink. After that put your finger on heatsink and check real temp. If CPU have 85 degrees you will not able to stay finger on it more time than 5s. I think you have good cooling system. Problem is temp sensor. Waiting for your report. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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