Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:09 am    Post subject: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

Hello.
I have sony vaio vpcs13x9r (pcg-51111v).

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Socket 1         ID = 0
   Number of cores      2 (max 2)
   Number of threads   4 (max 4)
   Manufacturer      GenuineIntel
   Name         Intel Core i5 460M
   Codename      Arrandale
   Specification      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 460  @ 2.53GHz
   Package (platform ID)   Socket 989 rPGA (0x4)
   CPUID         6.5.5
   Extended CPUID      6.25
   Core Stepping      K0
   Technology      32 nm
   TDP Limit      25.0 Watts

BIOS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFI            Yes
BIOS Date         09/21/10

Chipset
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Northbridge         Intel Havendale/Clarkdale Host Bridge rev. 02
Southbridge         Intel HM55 rev. 05



What is the maximum processor I can insert ?

I buy i7-820QM (BY80607002904AK) 988-pin micro-FCPGA8 (rPGA988A) Processor core Clarksfield, but the laptop did not work. Maybe a broken processor?!Does the Clarksfield and 45w core support my chipset?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be stuck with the dual core parts on that system.
So that'd leave you with the i7-640M as the fastest dual-core you can find.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazybubba64 wrote:
You might be stuck with the dual core parts on that system.
So that'd leave you with the i7-640M as the fastest dual-core you can find.

And there is no way to bypass the two-core limit and put four cores?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The limit is probably on TDP if there is one
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

zbugz wrote:
What is the maximum processor I can insert ?

The Core i7-640M.
zbugz wrote:
Maybe a broken processor?!Does the Clarksfield and 45w core support my chipset?
I don't think the processor is dead, but it looks like your VAIO doesn't support it. The schematic for your VAIO shows that it only supports Arrandale - https://www.laptopserviz.bg/media/catalog/product/g/d/gd3-mb-evt-0601c_01.jpg
zbugz wrote:
And there is no way to bypass the two-core limit and put four cores?
There is a way, it's just very difficult. It involves BIOS modification and a lot of patience.

I don't see a BIOS update program located anywhere on the web for your VAIO, so the only way to modify the BIOS is to extract it from the BIOS chip with an SPI programmer. Then, you need to check if the microcode exists for Clarksfield in the BIOS with MC Extractor. If the microcode for Clarksfield doesn't exist, that could be the reason why it doesn't boot. In this case, you need to add the microcode into the BIOS with a hex editor, and flash it back to the BIOS chip with the SPI programmer. If it does exist but doesn't boot, I suspect the motherboard's VRM isn't able to supply enough current to power up the 820QM. The other possibility is the APIC table doesn't recognize processors with four cores, but I don't think it has the ability to prevent the system from booting up if that was the case.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

Calbris wrote:


I don't see a BIOS update program located anywhere on the web for your VAIO, so the only way to modify the BIOS is to extract it from the BIOS chip with an SPI programmer. Then, you need to check if the microcode exists for Clarksfield in the BIOS with MC Extractor. If the microcode for Clarksfield doesn't exist, that could be the reason why it doesn't boot. In this case, you need to add the microcode into the BIOS with a hex editor, and flash it back to the BIOS chip with the SPI programmer. If it does exist but doesn't boot, I suspect the motherboard's VRM isn't able to supply enough current to power up the 820QM. The other possibility is the APIC table doesn't recognize processors with four cores, but I don't think it has the ability to prevent the system from booting up if that was the case.

This is i can't do
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sad... Thanks all !
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more question:
Intel HM57 support i7-820QM (BY80607002904AK) ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zbugz wrote:
One more question:
Intel HM57 support i7-820QM (BY80607002904AK) ?
If you have a dGPU, yes. But at this point you're better off getting a new laptop. First gen Core is positively ancient.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

The HM57 chipset supports all Socket 989 rPGA processors, it has no limitations. The problem lies with the motherboard, if it doesn't:
• have a BIOS containing the microcode for Clarksfield
• have a BIOS with 8 'Processor Local APIC Structure' entries
• have a VRM capable of supporting Clarksfield's power requirements
• have a dedicated graphics chip connected to the internal or external display

Then it isn't going to work. It's a matter of the motherboard's design, not the chipset itself. Laptops that fulfill all of these requirements are not common, the only one that I'm aware of which can boot both Arrandale and Clarksfield with the HM57 is the ProBook 6450b/6550b.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

Calbris wrote:
both Arrandale and Clarksfield with the HM57 is the ProBook 6450b/6550b.

VAIO VPC-Z13S9R support this ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade CPU Socket 989 rPGA. Need help. Reply with quote

No. The VAIO VPC-Z13S9R can only boot with Arrandale, not Clarksfield.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:03 pm    Post subject: Socket 989 Reply with quote

I Have Asus X301A Laptop Socket rPGA989 chipset Intel HM76,
i3 -2350M 2 Core, 4 Thread, 35W and 1X8GB DDR3L Ram (only one slot available). But according to rPGA989 max support i7-640M with integrated graphics. I believe because chipset Intel HM76 supporting Ivy Bridge CPU's. So my question is it possible to upgrade to i7-3632QM 35W, i7-3612QM 35W Quad-Core? If not What is the best CPU I can upgrade max?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Socket 989 Reply with quote

Your X301A uses Socket rPGA988B, not Socket rPGA989 or rPGA988A. They're different and are not electrically compatible.

Yes, both quad-core processors that you mentioned will work.
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