Intel i486 DX2 SX807 CPUs, two variants?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:01 am    Post subject: Intel i486 DX2 SX807 CPUs, two variants? Reply with quote

I have recently been adding the i486 S-Specs panel to SIV and there may be two variants of the Intel i486 DX2 SX807. Looking on this site then the SX807 CPUID is listed as 0435 as does https://www.ardent-tool.com/CPU/486_Step.html, but I have a SX807 and it's 0436! So there seem to be two variants. If you have a i486 DX2 SX807 please will you post what it's stepping is.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is fake, likely from DX2-50 SX954.
Font looks wrong even on this low quality photo, and copyright years on the back are not the same as on the front.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:50 am    Post subject: Why would they not have used SX955 ? Reply with quote

frag_ wrote:
Font looks wrong even on this low quality photo, and copyright years on the back are not the same as on the front.


Thank you, here are some better photos, I was being lazy and used my web-cam for the initial ones.

Assuming it's a fake then has then why would they not have used SX955 which has the same CPUID and is also a DX2/66 ?

It runs fine @ 66 MHz and the system will post @ 80 MHz, but Windows NT don't boot, might a SX955 run @ 80 MHz?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The entire point of this kind of faking was to sold them as more expensive model, so conversion 50 -> 66 was widespread, and making 66 from 66 was not profitable of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:12 am    Post subject: I meant SX954 to SX955 Reply with quote

frag_ wrote:
The entire point of this kind of faking was to sell them as more expensive model, so conversion 50 -> 66 was widespread, and making 66 from 66 was not profitable of course.


I meant SX954 to SX955, maybe a SX807 cost more than a SX955
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:53 am    Post subject: Fake SX954? Reply with quote

I have updated my panel to say Fake SX954? and noticed that both SX954 + SX955 support L1 cache WB mode. AFAIK the SX807 does not and wonder what would happen with my "SX807", my MB doesn't support L1 cache WB so I can't check.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They weren't concerned with accuracy of stepping, just quick money. So they probably had a SX807 that they used for reference to fake the markings to
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a minor update that has escaped to the wild Confused
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