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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Help with old chips (values) Reply with quote

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I have questions! Razz

I recently came into a rather large collection of old chips and I'm trying to figure out what I've really got.

Much of it will probably end up on the VCGM but I want to know (in general) what stuff is worth first.

Here, for example, is a small sample of the CPUs (most of the rest are controllers, TTL, RAM, etc.)



The five on the left are various 8085s (Intel, NEC, AMD and unknown - plastic and ceramic), the three on the right are a Signetics N8X300I, a TI 8080 and a Zilog Z-80.

I've found a few chip collector sites like this one but none have pricing/valuation information!

Any help would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: Help with old chips (values) Reply with quote

Welcome Erik!
you have a great site and great vintage-computer collection.actually ,your vintage-computer-forum is one of my favorite and i am also a member there

speaking about the chip value
my opinion is that
the most valuable chip of these chips is the Ti8080 (if it is the right middle one).
if the chips are all in good condition
the ceramic 8085 is possible 5-10 USD
and the plastic ones is about 1-5 USD each
the Signetics N8X300I is used to be 10-20 USD
but the Ti8080 is at least 20 USD and possible easy to be higher than 50USD on the ebay if in mint condition (as for referance ,white ceramic intel 8080 used to 50-100 USD on the ebay)
regards!
Lee


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Erik,
I'm a member of your group also and I'll give you a basic primer about CPU's based on my relatively short timespan in the chip collecting hobby/addiction. Wink
GENERALLY Speaking-
Chip values can vary based on Age, Rarity and type of chip material (plastic, brown or purple ceramic, white ceramic and Gold pins or tops.
Plastics are usually the least collected type, however many early Intel and other well known CPU brands and even support chips are desirable if they are scarce or rare types.
Brown and Purple CPU ceramics are more collectible and Gold trimmings and rarity add to the collectibility. I collect some older pre-1985 small "brownies" or "Sandwich" chips just because I find them interesting.
White ceramics with Gold tops and legs AND unusual large chips or chips with unique top designs seem to attract the most interest. They are usually older discontinued CPUs and some support chips and it seems that fewer of these were made than of the plastic or other ceramic chip types.

Again, These are very general guidelines and I'm sure one of the expert members here will give you detailed info on your pictured chips on a following posting!

Ciao.... Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnorun wrote:
Hi Erik,
I'm a member of your group also and I'll give you a basic primer about CPU's based on my relatively short timespan in the chip collecting hobby/addiction. Wink
GENERALLY Speaking-
Chip values can vary based on Age, Rarity and type of chip material (plastic, brown or purple ceramic, white ceramic and Gold pins or tops.
Plastics are usually the least collected type, however many early Intel and other well known CPU brands and even support chips are desirable if they are scarce or rare types.
Brown and Purple CPU ceramics are more collectible and Gold trimmings and rarity add to the collectibility. I collect some older pre-1985 small "brownies" or "Sandwich" chips just because I find them interesting.
White ceramics with Gold tops and legs AND unusual large chips or chips with unique top designs seem to attract the most interest. They are usually older discontinued CPUs and some support chips and it seems that fewer of these were made than of the plastic or other ceramic chip types.

Again, These are very general guidelines and I'm sure one of the expert members here will give you detailed info on your pictured chips on a following posting!

Ciao.... Wink
-John


I would say that judging value by the package is VERY general.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends why you are collecting... If you value them according to looks then this formula is spot-on.

Also based on the mechanical and electrical requirements of the more specific (ie military, aerospace / industrial / prototype) and therefore potentially rarer chips that are of the ceramic type, these guidelines also hold true.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rate the ti 8080 much higher, of course the picture doesn't show any details.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wepwawet wrote:
I'd rate the ti 8080 much higher, of course the picture doesn't show any details.


This is about the best I can do on pictures:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a nice 8080! I have not come across a white ceramic one before when documenting known TI chips. Can i ad your image to the database? http://www.chipdb.org/cat-8080-992.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cpuswe wrote:
Can i ad your image to the database? http://www.chipdb.org/cat-8080-992.htm


Please feel free! Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ti 8080 in white ceramic are present in Genna collection, CPU-Museum and (if I remember well) in ITO-Family collector site in Japan

I think are also in other collection not documentated on internet

always a nice chip Smile along with OKI 8080 white
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isa-d wrote:
Ti 8080 in white ceramic are present in Genna collection, CPU-Museum and (if I remember well) in ITO-Family collector site in Japan

I think are also in other collection not documentated on internet

always a nice chip Smile along with OKI 8080 white


Yupp, just because i have not seen it, it does not mean that its not present anywhere else, in this case because im not allowed use images from those collections.

vintage-computer wrote:


Please feel free! Smile


Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yupp, just because i have not seen it, it does not mean that its not present anywhere else, in this case because im not allowed use images from those collections.


Hoops!! I'm sorry, mine was only a general speacking about this chip and it's value
this isn't a one known chip like a P8008 (for example) and so vintage-computer can build better his expectation in case of sale

..... and I hope to be the buyer (like other 20+ here Sad )
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: TI 8080 Reply with quote

There appears to be enough interest to justify an auction so I listed it on the Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace.
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