who made these F2708

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: who made these F2708 Reply with quote

hi,maybe this is a stupid question but i am not familiar with eprom and just wondering who made these F2708.
The bottom of the chip is blank.
Are they made by Fairchild ?
thanks in advances!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is Fairchild.
But take a microscope and see what's on the die!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairchild as far as I know.

Possibly with national dies as national/fairchilsd shaed a bit in the 70's/80's

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, Fairchild. The number "1" next to pin 1 gives it away.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chip68 wrote:
Yup, Fairchild. The number "1" next to pin 1 gives it away.

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This is also Fairchild?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember packages are typically made by 3rd parties (such as NGK)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elar wrote:
This is also Fairchild?


Huh. All I know is I've only ever seen that package (until now) used by Fairchild:





(So all else being equal, in the absence of any other identifying information, that "1" is still more likely indicative of a Fairchild part.) >> well, maybe not

Btw, as far as third-parties go, back in the day many fabs had their own proprietary packages. AMI and TI immediately spring to mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at John's EPROM collection I see a few Intel 1702's and 2708's with that same package, and I'm reminded that Bob Noyce and Gordon Moore were former Fairchild employees...

Does anyone have an example that *isn't* Fairchild or Intel? Just curious.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wepwawet wrote:
My guess is Fairchild.
But take a microscope and see what's on the die!

Thank all of you for comments !
I think check with a microscope is a good idea but I couldnt get a microscope now . I have try a magnifier today . but failed to have any clue.
I got these from one lot of the late 70 chips selling for goldscrap ( together with the white 9511) . I didnt collect the EPROM seriously. If someone have such facility and are willing to take a picture and show us who made it , i will let the purple one go freely (of course postage not free )

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siemens used it as well
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Raytheon 2901 clone has the 1 as well
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've since found examples from OKI, National, TI, and AMD as well... (All 8080's.) So I guess you can ignore what I said about the "1" being a dead giveaway. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is likley ia Fujitsu "F" instead of Fairchild. Seems like Fujitsu "F" is usually square and Fairchild "F" is usually script style like in pictures from Chip68.

Edit - nevermind - I have now found some Fairchild chips with square F on a Plastic F3850, so style of F does not make difference between Fairchild and Fujitsu if the F is square.

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