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fluffen75 Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: AMD K7 sempron vs Athlon XP |
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If the rating on Athlon XPs are to be compaird to Pentium 4 cpus, and Semprons to Celerons, how do i compair them against each other? Is a sempron 2800/128 faster then a Atlon XP 2200/256 etc
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Marcin

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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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My theory is that : Semprons are very similar to Athlons but Celerons are very far from Pentiums in performance.
There is no rule to comparing exactly. Read tests on popular benchmark sites or if you thinking about CPU upgrade download SiSoft Sandra and test by own. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice, in most apps the sempron is faster, BUT now i´ve confuses myself even more, there are bigger differances in performance depending on the moterboaseds. I have a long night of testing combos : ) |
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jd

Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1562 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Ouch !!! This isn't a good reference Marcin
I'll dumb it up a little....
Sempron VS Athlon XP you say:
Sempron = Internet Surfer
Athlon XP= GAMER !!!
Why do you think they quite making Sempron so quickly? It was a major mistake and could not be anything close to an Athlon !
So it is very simple, if your gonna be a beginner and have no knowledge of pc's, then buy an Athlon XP ! If you have plenty of pc experience, then buy an Athlon XP ! 1+1=2
Later
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Marcin

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| jd wrote: |
Sempron VS Athlon XP you say:
Sempron = Internet Surfer
Athlon XP= GAMER !!!
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No no no. That is bad explane.
Sempron = Athlon in most applications
To fluffen75. If you compare Sempron Socket A to Athlon XP you must take CPUs with same FSB (333 MHz) and same motherboard (chipset). That I thought by compare Semprons VS Athlons and Celerons VS Pentiums. Then you can get CLEVER answer.
BTW. Athlons in same class had always more cache L2. For what you need more cache memory ? For video working and making archive files (zip rar etc). In games is small difference so we can't say Semprons are for internet and Athlons are for gamers. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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jd

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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LOL.......
Let me try again !
Try playing BF2 sidebyside with a Sempron VS an Athlon XP ! Then come an tell me which one you prefer
I'm not talking about the books, the specs and ratings....I'm talking about first hand experience and experimenting for 6 years ! When Sempron came out, I was asked to start testing this in gaming mode next to my old system. (Athlon XP2400+) System after system, had glitches during game play with Sempron ! IT IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A GAMER'S CHOICE CPU ! Meanwhile ,the Athlon XP came true in every combat I could dish out at it.
...and yes, I used the same memory, Video card during all tests. You got to think, I probly totaled well over 400 systems in 3 years in game play, and none of them with a Sempron came true at all! That's sais is all for me ! No , matter what the "books, specs or ratings " of the Sempron are, they never past any of my performence tests during game play VS Athlon XP.
JD
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gshv

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Sempron socket 462 processors are the same as Athlon XP processors, they only have Celeron rating, which is approximately the same as Pentium 4 rating + 300. For example, Sempron socket 462 3000+ is about as fast as Athlon XP 2700+. When comparing faster socket 754 Semprons with Athlon 64 the difference will be a bit larger - 400 MHz or so. That is Sempron 3400+ is about as fast as Athlon 64 3000+. So, to respond to original question, I think that Semron 754 with 128 K L2 cache will be faster than Athlon XP 2200+/256.
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Marcin

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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jd more details about sempron that you used with compare Athlon Xp 2400.
I agree with gshv. That is exactly compare which you asked for. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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jd

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Very sad...
I don't know in how many different languages I must try to explain what I'm trying to say...but it is obviously useless in here because some of you all rely on books ,facts, ratings , paper trails and some, just plain Intel favortism !
Part#3 of my explination:
I'll keep it short'n sweet !-------> I don't go by books, IT up the ass professionals quotes, online cpu ratings or anything else other then...
------------>Sitting on my ass putting 2 machines side-by-side and firing-up BF2 and watch the choke that comes out of Sempron !
You got to think of it my way for a sec. I am a MAJOR AMD FAN . For me to put down my own cpu brands is enough said for a reason. Sempron never impressed me with gaming performence, what so ever ! It plain sucks ! It reminds me of putting a Duron next to an Athlon !
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Marcin

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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So BF2 must have some kind of bug Try Battlefield 2142. Just kidding
OK You know something and I know something. Let's leave that as is. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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jd

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Just trying to point out what I was going threw in comparing cpu's.
But I guess when it comes down to it, everyone has a second opinion about different chips, no matter the "reviews" given !
So, my advice, if you got a socket462 motherboard, don't waste the boards potential by putting a Sempron on it
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Marcin

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes difference in performance between two CPUs is smaller than difference between two chipsets with same CPUs. Remember that too. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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jd

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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..........I have took note of that, but they were all mostly VIA chipset boards.
But ya.....like you said, we'll leave it be
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Marcin

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jd

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah.....I saw that after....
But he really is better off getting an XP Athlon in my opinion for his 462mob.
I'm I anoying anyone with this yet?
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