ES...not so rare ?

[jd]

I've started to notice something lately... ES aren't as "special" anymore as they appear to be! I've got a great example of just what I mean but first, I continue rambling on about it.I came on here last year and saw amazing chips fly threw threads in here left and right. I always thought it was awsome to see ES 's past by as hard to find and the so called "rare" term being used, but now ,after seeing people owning 4+ ES of one kind of the same chip, and more handfulls of others, and selling them like weed at a corner of a street, is kinda starting to make me wonder what the F I'm collecting this for ! ES's ain't rare, nor hard to find at all ! As far as I'm conserned, their pretty much just as valuble at this point as a regular chip ! I mean sheesh ! it's one thing to have one of each ES, but 4+ ????


Look at my examples now, and tell me, how many of these can a guy have to offer for sale until he turns blue ? I mean common guys ! What kinda respect is this for the term, hard to find or rare is an ES. I've lost the edge for ES's now...


http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium4-2-0-QFE8ES-Socket-423-Willamette-WORKING_W0QQitemZ260082505073QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14293QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260082505073

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium4-1-9-QGU4ES-Socket-423-Willamette-WORKING_W0QQitemZ260082505060QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14293QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260082505060

ps. don't take offence chipfans, I'm just using your quantity as examples ..there's more like you out there !

JD

[Marcin]

Pentium III and IV ESs are cheaper than normal versions because :
1) many of buyers don't have enough knowlage to know what exactly they buying - they don't want to risk
2) these CPUs aren't main priority of most CPU collectors - they are to young

That is why they are cheap - that doesn't means they are not rare. You can try by own to search PIV ES in used part shop, yank yard and see result of "rarity"

[jd]

Thanx...still don't feel better...LOL !






JD

[Cpuswe]

Of course there are starting to pop up ES from scrapped PIII:s and early P4:s. Since there are more and more chips produced there will be more and more ES:s on the market.

Lets say there are 30 times more PIII:s than 486 produced. A 486 ES will always be 30 times more rare. (If they produced the same % ES) And since there probably are even more P4:s there will be even more of them.

[FDIV]

I would say that currently P3 and P4 ES supply is greater than demand and that is why they sell for $15-$35. The Chinese are scrapping thousands and thousands of chips these days so even if one out of every 10k chips is an ES you will find many on e-bay. It is also notable that from my experience as a scrapper, P3 and early P4 systems are the ones most often being decommissioned right now so supply is at it's height on these chips.

[Cpuswe]