Got scammed on a E6600 Conroe and need some help please.

[Prodigyeq]

I got sent a Engineering Sample from a company passing it of as a OEM new processor. Needless to say i'm pissed but my options are limited on getting my money back or getting anything out of this company. So, this is the processor



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is this a fully function processor that i can use, does it have limits the retail chips dont have, i know ES samples have other "features".. how do i get access to them are they anything but usless... or do i have to buy another processor and try to fight out a credit charge back for a few months and maybe see my money on the other end..

In the feature chart i see a normal processor has Virtualization technoloy and Speedstep technology.. Does my ES sample? when i look up QLLR it's not listed.

Are you able to unlock Core multipliers on ES samples or are they hard locked like retail ends?


Need lots of help and from reading the posts, you guys are without a doubt the smartest set of fourm posters i've come across that could answer all my questions. Undoubtly 99% of you have to be electrical engineers. Please help, i'm trying to make a lime out of a lemon here and as of this coming tuesday my hard drives will be here ready to be installed. I'll be firing this rig up and i gotta know what i'm up against in terms of the core of this system i'm building.

Should i even put this thing in my system? It's taken me 3 months to get all the parts and i'm at the end.. Should i just save up another month and buy a retail boxed processor and thor this thing in the trash.

Help please.

[Prodigyeq]

OH, I forgot to ask.. Will this chip support 64 bit Vista.. Thats the OS i'm running. I didnt see anyhting but 32bit binary on the QLLR spec sheet.

I'm pretty new in terms 64bit and 32bit.. but the e6600 should run 64 bit vista just fine.. right?

[Wizzard1]

it does seem to be an E6600 processor (4M)....
In which case, it's EQUAL value as a X6800 or maybe more....

It has 110% the functionality as a regular E6600:
E6600 AND unlocked multiplier... And neat factor!

Odds are it will perform >= to an E6600, especially if you overclock. BEing able to alter the multi ABOVE spec is a trait known only to the X6800 processor, and of course QS/ES samples.

[gshv]

[Prodigyeq]

Awesome, thank you. You guys seem to think, if it works, that it's better then a stock Chip. The core multiplier, to me, is a good thing. Thats nice to hear. Even tho it's a used ferrari.. i got myself a ferrari.

Hope it works then.

Any thoughts on the 64bit vista? Was that a good choice (your personal bias aside)? Hardware wise not support on the software side.

Mobo: Nvidia nforce 680i (1333 fsb)
ram: Crucial 2gb 240pin sdram ddr2 1000

the mobo chipset should rock a 64bit setup and now a unlocked 4mb buffer conroe. 64 vista was the way to go right?

Thank you for your help.

[Cpuswe]

On the non technical side, Intel are sending these out for free to companies for research and development of products. Regardless of what you paid for it, the company you bought it from made ~100% profit. (And they are strictly "Not for re-sale" from Intels side.)

But on the technical side, if you are into oveclocking. these chips seems to be the holy grail!

[Wizzard1]

Indeed, I am on an ES chip right now, a Celeron 1200ES overclocked at 11x133 Ther are wonderful for overclocking, it has not been since early Pentium days till now that Intel has 'unlocked' it's mulptipliers to anything but down! Feel very lucky, you may have the equivalent of an X6800 which goes for almost a grand!!!

[Prodigyeq]

Yea i paid the same as you do for OEM e6600's they hover around $300.. i think micro center has them OEM new for like... $269 or $279..

The company i bought them from is called Stalliontek.com. After buying it and then reading their customer comments. ES are the only thing they sell it looks like. On the intel side at least. Only side i can confirm for you. I had a friend buy the X6800 and got a ES sample as well but he was hoping for one. he's trying to reach the 4k benchmark.

I had no idea thats what they send out and after talking to Intel at length.. intel did not give ES samples to them. They are buying from a 3rd party. So they asked me for all the info to trace and find who the 3rd party is.

Thats where you guys come in. They would only tell me it's a ES sample. They wouldnt tell me anything except "return it for a full refund". I told them they would not give me anything back and they said "we do not offer any warranty on this chip". So i was stuck behind a rock in a hard place..

So thank you for your help. I really thought i was screwed but the unlocked multiplier makes up for a whole lot of negative thoughts i had about my chip. After a few emails Stalliontek gave me a warranty past this tuesday so i can test it out and see if it works. Not a bad company but... they should really tell people what they are selling.

Yea i'm into overclocking.. my complete setup has been guided to OC close to 3.5k .. the multiplier will help push it past that with ease. If it works.

Any thoughts on 64bit vista? =)

[Wizzard1]

Only 3.5kHz? Isn't that a bit of an underclock?

ARe you pushing FSB with 'stock' multi or going all out?

I hear the new Asus 'Commando' board can do 525MHz+ in testing!

[Prodigyeq]

i dunno yet.. it scares me to run the volts up too high.

The unlocked core just opens a whole lot of flex on my stats. I built it for a conservative 3.5k but this was with a locked core built around fast ram and a super fast factory FSB. The rated mhz my mobo FSB will run is 1333. I've seen 1900fsb/950mem rock solid (and my memory is 1k factory.. extra speed i can squish out with better timings more volts.). It's the nvidia 680i chipset so the bios was built around overclocking. This unlocked core put me into a situation i didnt plan on... Exciting.. but unplanned lol. My PSU will more then supply what i need it's just having the courage to run it that high. The heat sink i have is the Tuniq tower 120, so it will more then carry the heat dissipation load. My lian li case has 4 120MM fan including the heatsink and i'm looking into water cooling if i really ramp up the speed.

I am a overclocker but not a extreme overlcoker. I fell backwards into a extreme chip and I might just juice it and see how far it takes me. i'll give you an update on what i can get it to, if i try to ramp it up.

Honestly i got the e6600 for the extra 2megs for faster physics. I was thinking of 2 8800gts SLI with a physics processor in the 3rd PCIe. I was talked out of it by a friend who told me nothing needs that yet. That Phyxs only push the load from one end of the bus to the other and the extra 2megs will lessen the load enough on the processor to make anything out now flawless. CAD , gaming, or video conversions.. saving $600 by spending an extra $100 was a no brainer to me. as it is now i have 1 8800gts and content.

I dont know as much as i wish i knew about the engineering side of processors. I could be a bit more extreme in my OCing goals if i knew the 1's and 0's behind it all i suppose. if you guys have tips and what you think this system would do with this rig.. by all means toss me some tips. I'd trust you guys more then a guy whos keeps ramping up their volts till the chip explodes and that is the benchmark for the next processor he gets. I dont have that kind of money.

The system i've built i'm very proud of and i thought i got scammed into a crappy processor till you guys told me what it could do if it works.

Thank you guys for your help. Still nothing on 64bit vista? hehehe

[Mixeur]

Core 2 cpus supports EM64T. So I assume it can runs Vista 64 bits.

You have the cpu, you have Vista 64 bits. So, try.