6800 ES's there seem to be to many

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: 6800 ES's there seem to be to many Reply with quote

I know that early Motorola chips like the 6800 here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130091033286&rd=1&rd=1
are supposed to be engineering samples but dosen't it seem like there are a bit to many? There are 4 on cpuphotolibrary alone http://www.cpuphotolibrary.com/cat654.htm?page=2
Are these really ES? How do we know? I'm just saying, how many intel 8088 ES chips have you found lying around.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are not ES
they are just not fully validated.
They may contain as yet undocumented errata etc.

More like Qualification samples

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes a bit more sense.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/6800/Motorola-XC6800B.html

According to this site's database, they are ES.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think XC on old Motorola microprocessors means that they are engineering samples. Starting from 68020 or 68030 family the engineering samples were marked with "PC" prefix. It's possible that earlier processors had "XC" prefix for both ES and QS chips.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as I have seen several late production models with X prefixes, leading to the qualification designation
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
as I have seen several late production models with X prefixes, leading to the qualification designation

Do you remember what date codes they had? I've only seen XC6800B chips with 74xx and 75xx date codes.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty sure I have seen XC6800A with a 76 code
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XC6800A could be a faster version than XC6800B.

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