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Wolfman1970



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: OLD P4 mobo Reply with quote

I have a couple of questions about an MSI MS-6534 mobo, I hope someone can help me with them.

1. Current CPU is a Williamette 1.5 OC'ed to 2.0 by upping the fsb on the mobo. When I turn the PC on the bois shows up it says "P4, 1.5 fsb100". If I turn it off at this point and back on again it reports "P4 2.0 fsb133". Minor annoyance having to do that, how do I fix it?

2. I read on here that putting a 533fsb chip in a 400fsb board will make the chip run "slower" than it should, would it work properly if I just force the FSB to 133?

3. Last question (for the moment), If I put a Prescott CPU in, will it function properly (HyperThreading etc)?

Thanks for your help


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2. Should, yes. IF cpu is supported.

3. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodcpusupport&prod_no=299&maincat_no=1#menu
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) your mobo is too clever Smile I mean overclocking is on high level and system propably not always booting correctly. I suspect board is recovering default settings at first time. You can try and update BIOS nothing else I can say. MSI wasn't best for OC
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help so far Smile

I now have a 533fsb P4 2.66g chip in the MoBo. I took a chance on eBay and bought one for £17 - my logic being this, if it doesn't work I could always sell it on if it didn't work (and maybe make a profit). The system recognised it as a 2gig chip on the initial start, and as the correct speed (2.66) on the "second" start. Considering that MSI's own info states that the 533 fsb Northwoods aren't supported at all, I'm a happy Wolfie!!

I have a posting about fsb-ram speed ratios here http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7074 but it's a bit of a moot point, as I have discovered that I CAN'T set the multiplier in this bios Sad all I can set are the ram timings (latency etc). Options for this are - By SPD or Manual (which "unlocks" the timing options)

My question now is (as in the post I linked to) - is there any actual advantage to the ram running faster than the fsb? Mine is set at 3:4 - ie fsb 133, ram 177 (not bad for pc133 eh?) - timings are as follows (info obtained using CPU-Z 1.4)
CAS# latency 3
RAS# to CAS# delay 3
RAS# precharge 3
Cycle time (tras) 6

If I try to push the FSB higher (as I intend to do at some point Twisted Evil) would "loosening" the timings a bit let me push the ram even faster? To get the fsb to 150 (and the cpu to 3gig) it would appear that I'd need to run the ram at 200 Shocked


@Marcin - would the ram running with the 3:4 multiplier be the cause of the two starts being needed for the OC'ed FSB to be set properly (it stays at 133 in the bios even if I go into it from the first startup)? Once I've started the PC then re-started it as soon as it "beeps" and the keyboard light comes on, the fsb stays set no matter how many re-starts are done. The "problem" only happens if the power has been off for more than 5 mins.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfman1970 wrote:
@Marcin - would the ram running with the 3:4 multiplier be the cause of the two starts being needed for the OC'ed FSB to be set properly (it stays at 133 in the bios even if I go into it from the first startup)? Once I've started the PC then re-started it as soon as it "beeps" and the keyboard light comes on, the fsb stays set no matter how many re-starts are done. The "problem" only happens if the power has been off for more than 5 mins.


One way to get know that : set default speed of RAM and check what will happen.

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