Ebay Boycott & Paypal Freeze

[tlccomp]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/08/smbusiness/paypal_funds_freeze.fsb/index.htm?postversion=2008021113
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/15/smbusiness/ebay_strike_update.fsb/index.htm?postversion=2008021810

[wepwawet]

Not a problem for me.
And for most of us.
With 100 percent positive and not selling goods over $5000 per year - who of us does? - I don't see a reason for panic.

... I am a buyer too, most of you as well, keep that in mind.

[g0b]

It's a problem for me :

How can ebay make a so unfair and non significant way of evaluation ? Someone that only buy on ebay and never sells (no so uncommon profile), will always have a 100% profile whatever he does !!! There are bad sellers... but also bad buyers... And now, there is no way to detect them... What is the meaning of a feedback that cannot be below 100% ???

It would have been so easy to say " buyer and seller have 30 days to evaluate each other blindly, and both feedback are made public the 30th day, only if both have made and evaluation, otherwise it is discarded" This would have solved the so called "threat-upon-buyer-who-does-not-dare-leaving-a-neg-feedback" issue on a far more balanced way...

g0b

[wepwawet]

where's the problem from a buyers perspective???

did i miss something or is the only real life effect that a seller (under this linitation) can't take all money asap and go?

this sounds to me like many other buyer protection methods, and as many bad experiences show all those voluntary options that sellers can choose to show they are serious don't work for bad sellers.

[g0b]

From a buyer's perspective : Why not saying : "give me a 10% rebate on the item I bought, or I leave you a negative feedback" ? Now there is no more risk to get a negative feedback, why not doing blackmail by threatening the seller to give him a neg feedback ? OK, this may be sound unrealistic (I hope, but I'm not sure ...) but in my opinion, seller will always have a sword of Damocles hanging over his head with buyer's feedback. That would be acceptable if ebay was fair an efficient to solve buyer-seller problems, but it is well known it's not the case...

g0b

[debs3759]

I've had sellers rip me off or try to rip me off (one is trying to get an unpaid item strike put against me because I won't pay €60 to ship 100 gms, when each listing says €15 flat rate for up to 2Kg), and I have been ripped off by buyers (in one case I had a refund forcibly taken from my Paypal for items that the buyer received, without having an option to explain the buyer only paid for surface mail from Europe to Western USA!).

As someone who buys more than I sell (at least, at the moment!), I know I will be protected against the former, but I would rather that not be at the expense of the many legitimate sellers who will be put out of business because of having to wait for their money while eBay rake in interest in the banks.

[gshv]

I think it's good that sellers won't be able to leave bad feedback for buyers. Some sellers were really abusing it. Now they'll have to deal with this the same way as all non-eBay sellers do - actually resolving the conflict. As for the bad buyers - there are not so many of them. I listed at least a few hundred auctions on eBay, and I encountered only two or three bad buyers.

In my opinion the worst part of these eBay changes for us, as buyers, are new fees:

http://pages.ebay.com/sell/update08/basic/index.html

I suspect that as the result of this we'll see higher auction initial prices or higher shipping prices

Gennadiy

[Qwerty]

[wepwawet]

ok, i missed something.
i still think for me from a sellers perspective i can calculate the risk.

still leaving feedback first after receiving the money i never got trouble.
ok, i am good in deescalation.

...but higher fees and pressing ebay users into paypal is not a good idea.

especially in the eu where we have a good alternative.

but it is as everywhere. those who sit on top use their a@@es to press all out of you they can get

[debs3759]

[Qwerty]

[debs3759]

I'd not heard that we could charge Paypal fees. I thought nobody, anywhere, could charge them. Haven't looked into it for a long while though

[Cpuswe]

Sweden are not a part of the Euro business either but i can do wire-transfers to the 27 members of the European Economic Area (EEA) for 1 Euro per transfer, 2-5 days transfer time. If the transfer are a couple of euros thats much cheaper than paypal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area

Edit: Cost of 1 euro is if you do it via Internet.

[CPUShack]

I lve that it takes 2-5 days to transfer some 0's and 1's.

What are they using? Eniacs?

[Cpuswe]