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JAC



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Athlon comments please Reply with quote

Check print on this





Now check this....

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fake?

To make money. Buy the slowest one, and resell a highend chip Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAC bought it for me in UK from this auction. Probably a fake made from a ES chip with unlocked multiplier.

Perhaps this is the reason for the unfocused image in the auction? Wink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220217450609&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they any known faked examples? before I contact the seller, it would be good to have as much information as possible. It may be the case the seller was selling what he thought was true.. but I am curious about his wording...


"AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Engineering Sample

(2.2GHz, 512KB, 1GHz Bus, Socket 939 - MPN: ADA3500DIK4BI)

This CPU is sought after since it has an unlocked multiplier which allows you to overclock with ease since you don't have to mess around with the FSB settings!"



How would he know it is an engineering sample - does it say that in something like cpu info when the chip is being used?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Are they any known faked examples? before I contact the seller, it would be good to have as much information as possible. It may be the case the seller was selling what he thought was true.. but I am curious about his wording...


"AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Engineering Sample

(2.2GHz, 512KB, 1GHz Bus, Socket 939 - MPN: ADA3500DIK4BI)

This CPU is sought after since it has an unlocked multiplier which allows you to overclock with ease since you don't have to mess around with the FSB settings!"



How would he know it is an engineering sample - does it say that in something like cpu info when the chip is being used?



No idea if these are known to be faked, but if its money involved, why not? One reason that we have not seen these yet, might be that there are still to many in use in pre-assembled machines (where you can "hide" the true identity of a chip.) Not to many sold separately yet.

Yes cpu-z usually shows chips as ES

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPU-Z may report that it is an engineering sample. I believe the CPU-Z does it when the clock multiplier is unlocked, which doesn't necessarily mean that the chip is an engineering sample.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks. Is it possible the markings were reduced prior to heatsink fitting?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have picutres of a known Engineering Sample of this type?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones I saw either has weird part numbers, like the chip below, or had normal part number and other markings, and were marked as "Engineering Sample".



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks.. I am still not sure what the deal is with the chip I have.
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