TDP drop in latest P4 stepping

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: TDP drop in latest P4 stepping Reply with quote

I was wondering how it is possible for Intel to decreased the TDP for the 3.4GHz Prescott/90nm cored LGA775 P4 from 115W to 84W in the latest (E0) stepping?

I understand that a stepping involves a revision of the wafer mask and that this can solve any electrical issues etc. but that's a 25%+ drop in TDP.

I note the core voltage has dropped from 1.4V to 1.287-1.4V.


Is this is real drop or is it just Intel marketing?


Can anyone enlighten me?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: TDP drop in latest P4 stepping Reply with quote

mmathewsnz wrote:
I was wondering how it is possible for Intel to decreased the TDP for the 3.4GHz Prescott/90nm cored LGA775 P4 from 115W to 84W in the latest (E0) stepping?


E0 stepping processors in LGA775 package have additional power management features. I have no idea what these features are, but it's possible these features reduced maximum power dissipation. Just compare E0 steppings for LGA775 and 478-pin packages - the difference is almost 20W.

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I note the core voltage has dropped from 1.4V to 1.287-1.4V.
Is this is real drop or is it just Intel marketing?


I think D0 stepping information provided by the Processorfinder is not correct - both D0 and E0 stepping processors may have multiple voltages in the range 1.25V - 1.4V.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TDP is not directly related to the CPU consumption. TDP is "Thermal Design Power". It's only an indication for the heatsink you should use with all the product *LINE* (and not only the product itself).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Mad wrote:
TDP is not directly related to the CPU consumption. TDP is "Thermal Design Power". It's only an indication for the heatsink you should use with all the product *LINE* (and not only the product itself).


You're right about TDP - for some reason I assumed it's a power dissipation. I do think TDP is dependent on CPU power dissipation, just this dependency is not linear. For example, 2.8, 3.2 and 3.4 GHz E0/LGA775 P4 have TDP 84W, while 3.6 and 3.8 GHZ processors have TDP 115W.

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