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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: ceramic hard drive board chips Reply with quote

I was wondering if people had any knowledge of what 40-pin chips were used on early hard drive PCBs, especially ceramic ones
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: ceramic hard drive board chips Reply with quote

Neon_WA wrote:
I was wondering if people had any knowledge of what 40-pin chips were used on early hard drive PCBs, especially ceramic ones


Are we talking 8" or 5&1/4"?
I have some early hard drives so I can have a look and let you Know if you wish

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing ceramic 8048/9 on 3,5" Miniscribe MFM drives. Maybe even 8748/9.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

appear to be PCB for 5 1/4 drive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170829353837?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1059

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon_WA wrote:
appear to be PCB for 5 1/4 drive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170829353837?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1059


Looks like a mix of both sizes
Might be a Fujitsu 8089 on it

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no ground strap it appears and has a GOLD cap.. so got me wondering
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Motorola 68705 in mid-80s 5.25'' 40 and 80 MB Miniscribe ESDI HDDs.
NEC D7809 in NEC D51xx and D53xx.
Various PGA gate arrays in Fujitsu 5.25'' drives.
Hitachi gate arrays in Hitachi (sorry... obvious...) old SCSI drives.
Toshiba gate arrays in old 5.25'' SCSI Quantums.
You can find the 8748 in several IBM MFM disks (061, 062, 063).
This is for the ceramic chips only.
Generally speaking I have seen a lot of different MCUs, ranging from the ubiquitous Intel 8048 to the Motorola 68000 (yes, in Fujitsu high end SCSI drives) and the 80188 (IBM SCSI). Some of the old-school 5.25'' drives have 2 or even 3 MCUs onboard: one for the servo control, one for the data channel and the third for the SCSI protocol processing (usually in pair with a SCSI controller like the WD33C93).
Paolo


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those are the sort of things I would expect.. but the package of this one has me stumped to what it would be
not what I would expect on a hard-drive PCB

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robev wrote:
Neon_WA wrote:
appear to be PCB for 5 1/4 drive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170829353837?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1059


Looks like a mix of both sizes
Might be a Fujitsu 8089 on it


In the object's picture I see a NEC hard drive controller board on the right and a Micropolis board on the left. In the middle there is a card that looks like a Fujitsu controller. Almost all those cards are HDD PCBs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

was a mystery buy for me.. as the boards interested me
so its on its way to Gennas.. so we will see in a few days time

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went out to my garage where I have about 100 5 1/4" drives, full height, half height etc but I don't really feel like taking the cards off them to see as a lot of them have the chips on the undersides of the boards, so sorry cannot help you with this one.
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