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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: Fake homework |
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For all those ppl that thought they didnt need to do homework anymore, here is an exercise for you
I have 2 SX957s here, one from Malay, the other from USA
which one is fake... or are both real... or are both fake
I picked one from each plant, as both plants have different text styles.. just to make a little more of a challenge  _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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Chiefish

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 2153 Location: Northwest N.J. U.S.A
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I dont claim to know much , but I would say the MAlay is the fake one, I see what would appear to be sanding marks across the cap on it. Altho the US one looks a bit dodgy along the heatsink too, unless its residue from the adhiesive or somthing. _________________ "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." A.E. |
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6a6ar09a

Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 444 Location: Belgrade
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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like Chiefish, I am not very sure that I know much about that... but left chip, Malay, should have bigger spaces between "INTEL", "M" and "C" at the bottom side.
Right chip, somehow, looks good at the bottom but suspicious from the top side... (to good looking heat-spreader and printing on them regarding this circle around...)
I don't know but I have some feeling that both chips are fake  _________________ www.chipmuseum.com
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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Chiefish wrote: | | Altho the US one looks a bit dodgy along the heatsink too, unless its residue from the adhiesive or somthing. |
Yes its the residue of that brown heat-sink paste (but im a lazy seller on the Bay and will say anything to sell my chip )
I will give ppl a day or 2 to decide for themselves.. then let everyone know
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those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 6163 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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seems you hv misplace the bottom and top of them.
from the top, the right is fake,
from the bottom, the left is fake _________________ My vintage CPU collection:www.cpumuseum.com
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| hugo929 wrote: | seems you hv misplace the bottom and top of them.
from the top, the right is fake,
from the bottom, the left is fake |
His order is correct
Malay matches malay (L + Malay) and USA matches USA (C + A4) _________________ New for 2025! The CPU Shack has a co-processor!
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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| hugo929 wrote: | seems you hv misplace the bottom and top of them.
from the top, the right is fake,
from the bottom, the left is fake |
I can confirm that the left top is from the left bottom chip
and right top is the same chip as right bottom
for reference i have included a pic of a SX957 fake i have _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 6163 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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the right has been painted a layer. it must be a fake. but the bottom of it looks quite normal.  _________________ My vintage CPU collection:www.cpumuseum.com
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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| hugo929 wrote: | the right has been painted a layer. it must be a fake. but the bottom of it looks quite normal.  |
hint > I have scratched the surface of both... neither have a painted layer _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 2906 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Both are fake _________________ My former Intel collection:
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Xaar

Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 319 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:54 am Post subject: |
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There are two things which make me think that the malay is fake:
1. Like Chiefish I wondered why the bottom seems to be polished with some sand. Looks different to all gold bottoms I have ever seen on "Goldcap" Pentium processors.
2. It looks like there is a little step on the border between the gold cap and the ceramic part. Neon's other SX957 has the same little step. US' SX957 seems to be free of that.
Best regards, Xaar. _________________ Sorry for my bad English - I'm working on it!
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Chook

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 2250 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I'd say the left is fake and the right is genuine. _________________ General failure reading disk in drive A
Who's General Failure and why is he reading my disk? |
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Neon_WA

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7146 Location: Margaret River, West Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| Xaar wrote: | There are two things which make me think that the malay is fake:
1. Like Chiefish I wondered why the bottom seems to be polished with some sand. Looks different to all gold bottoms I have ever seen on "Goldcap" Pentium processors.
2. It looks like there is a little step on the border between the gold cap and the ceramic part. Neon's other SX957 has the same little step. US' SX957 seems to be free of that.
Best regards, Xaar. |
Spot on mate
Yes the Malay is a fake
The ceramic has been ground down & remarked. The die cap was sanded & remarked. The malay was originally a gold top 75
The USA SX957 is real _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | hugo929 wrote: | the right has been painted a layer. it must be a fake. but the bottom of it looks quite normal.  |
hint > I have scratched the surface of both... neither have a painted layer |
I believe both are genuine because the front and back look normal.
I suspect the difference between them because of difference production plant. |
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | Xaar wrote: | There are two things which make me think that the malay is fake:
1. Like Chiefish I wondered why the bottom seems to be polished with some sand. Looks different to all gold bottoms I have ever seen on "Goldcap" Pentium processors.
2. It looks like there is a little step on the border between the gold cap and the ceramic part. Neon's other SX957 has the same little step. US' SX957 seems to be free of that.
Best regards, Xaar. |
Spot on mate
Yes the Malay is a fake
The ceramic has been ground down & remarked. The die cap was sanded & remarked. The malay was originally a gold top 75
The USA SX957 is real |
I have the similar one in my collection. If your is fake, then mine would probably the fake too. (bought it many years ago but no time to test it) |
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