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JAC

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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Actually that is pretty much the face of Van Rompuy in 99% of the situations.
He has done a good job in making the belgian gov. work after other politicians failed. In Belgium there are huge problems between Flandres and Wallony. The previous prime minister (Yves Leterme) failed where Van R. succceeded.
As Farage pleads of "a Belgium" as a non-existing country I beg to differ on his remark...
I guess Van R. was the less harmful 1st Eu president.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Van_Rompuy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Schulz |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Was hilarious
Euro MPs have approved an extra 1,500 euros a month in allowances to cover staff costs and backed the hiring of 150 new administrative personnel.
ALl in a time when THIS is how the finances are looking
All above the limits set by the EU
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: |
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The EU president is not like US president. He has not the same powers, if at all.
He doesn't set goals and policies for each country, because the countries do that according to the Eu decisions that are not taken by the "bald guy".
As for Italy and Greece, they had debts so big before he even became Belgium's PM and start to count something...
People you should read how EU institutions work because you are taking apples and oranges and mixing them. Italy has a debt of approx 1.800.000.000.000,00 €. Cpushack, if you can correlate the EU president to that I'll personally come to your doorstep to deliver a 4004 greytrace with 25 brazilian girls (or any of your choice, or 25 4004 and 1 girl lol).
Check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_the_European_Union
Go deep on the EU Commission to see how it works and who's got command.
If Greece, Spain, Italy and Protugal default, we are going to have big troubles...
Each country is sovereign, and if they take bad decisions it's not EU's fault. Just think that our minister for the economy wanted to have bills for 1 and 2 €, he has even been asked to think about seignorage in that case by Mr. Duisenberg (pres. of the eu central bank at the time)...
About raising allowances and blabla over more people paid by eu taxes, it's just the ever known political hogwash politicians do. Like it'll make Eu citizens better...
The system is already in big bad habits before that guy became EU president, the mistake is to focus on him the misdeeds of others before him. We can't throw rocks on his shiny head for free (that'll be bull's eye btw).
It's far more complicated than a graphic with two figures and "how is he doing", unfortunately. |
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allebram2
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Spain
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ha Ha Ha that was funny, never heard of him before. But I have actually lived for more than five years in Belgium and therefore I know that he, the EU President, judged from his name, must be from Vlanderen (North) and not Walonia (South) or Bruxelles with it's Island of French speaking pl. And I have nothing against Belgium or Belgians like that arrogant and ill behaved Brit, Nigel Farage seems to have. Sometimes you get the feeling that some Brits still think the live in a world like it was 100 years ago.
And even though it says Spain in the registration I normally stay in this country:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4L6-0WRfSA
A Country that still is not a member of the EU just like Switzerland. A country were people and politicians never would speak and talk to another opponent in the way that this arrogant Brit does.
I will not go as far to say that this is the reason why there is no credit crisis in this country, no deficit, but on the other hand the biggest investment fund in the world. And to get enough qualified people they still have to headhunt for workers in Sweden, Polen, The Baltic States and other European Countries.
Although this country is not part of the EU, it is attached to the common market by the European Economic agreement so all new laws and legislation's regarding economy and trade also becomes part of this countries laws.
But who needs government? Recently Belgium were without government for almost six (?) month and they still survived didn't they? And can anyone tell me the name of the Swiss Prime minister, Defense Minister and Secretary of State? They will get a C4004 Grey , not. Switzerland's economy does not seem to be hurt by lack of well known government officials? What about that MR KNOWS IT ALL BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE Nigel Farage. We need somebody that knows how to do the job, NOT a movie star. OK, Please excuse me Mr President, Ronald Reagan I always liked you and think you did a very good job as a President - well all rules comes with exceptions don't they?
I love EU for the People, and that finally all Europeans (almost) can travel and work freely around the the entire Continent, and the prospect for war between any of the countries is now more remote than anytime in the continents history. It is still decades to go to get all the easternmost countries like Ukraine, Belorussia and hopefully also one day also Russia included in the common union. But we will all get past this crisis and be stronger than ever before in due time. |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Remarks from Farage way below the belt....
Sounds like he thinks because Belgium is a
small country Herman van Rompuys
accomplishments are worth nothing...
On the other hand Farage is a (humanitarian) nothing,
maybe frustration?  _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: |
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He is UK Independence Party. They dont want the UK to get more integrated within Europe.
I had not heard of van Rompuy, and I suspect the majority of Europe has not either until he became president.
Still, I'd rather have verbal shoe throwing than going to actual war. |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Uk vs. Bel... Fight!
Of course it's better to have a verbal stand than other.
But the guy is not the one taking decisions at this time.
Uk didn't want to come in because of the Commonwealth, even started a parallel system.
I can't blame Uk for past decisions, as it has been an important country.
This said it doesn't mean that Farage can obliterate Belgium like a fly.
We all have our crème de la crème politicians, our is even prime minister
It has been only 60 years, Europe needs more time to work problems out.
Just think about the polish duo (the twins Kaczyński), arrived and already creating issues.... that's the way it is.
Politics... |
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multifusk

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 405 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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It may well be that Farage is a bully, but he, however, in a liberating way, shows, EU's lack of democracy. For each treaty EU makes, the EU gets more less democratic. The "gray suits" are creaping more and more inside, in their own world, far away from the European People's, they are supposed to rule over.
I am in for a united Europe in which we can live in peaceful coexistence. Since WW2 it has gone quite good (apart from the Balkan wars) but the EU is in many ways, far less democratic than the U.S.. They dare not to send their Treaties to a democratic Vote, in each member country, for they know, that they will never be adopted.
One can then think, is it the population there is something wrong with, or is it the Treaties.
If we absolutely must have a President of the EU, why not an elected representative, I am sure that there will be elected a person with a great deal more charisma, for example. Tony Blair would be a good choice, and as far as I know, he is unemployed at the moment  |
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