Am I real? A Pentium 233MMX with a different S-Spec

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Neon



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Am I real? A Pentium 233MMX with a different S-Spec Reply with quote

This Intel Pentium 233MMX has S-Spec SY27S. The similar S-Spec SL27S is often seen for this processor.

This one boots and identifies as expected.

Is this a new S-Spec, or fake processor, or misprint, or something else?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like fake for me...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing that is unsual is all SY spec has SY0xx.
I do not see a single other SY spec that does not have a 0 after the prefix.

The printing looks bad, especially the 5's

CPUID is 0543h or 2543h ?

That is not much help, as SL23W for example as the same cpuid 0543h or 2543h.

So the only thing left is to visual examine and maybe perform a heat test between a known good 233Mhz and this one. Maybe also an overclocked 200.


So.. if it is fake, then it has to be a lower speed uprated.. if it is not fake, then it could be anything???
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try removing any paint in a corner, looks revarnished to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks fake to me. Markings on the bottom are very poorly done. Matrix code, "Intel Pentium", and "w/ MMX tech" text looks black. Are they really black, or they only look black on the picture?

Gennadiy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say fake too. The print looks dodgy, "H" looks a lot too narrow, "A" looks like it has straight legs (compared to 'triangle' type normal ones).
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Neon



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAC wrote:

CPUID is 0543h or 2543h ?


cpuid=0543, and I don't remember ever seeing 2543 for a pentium

gshv wrote:
Looks fake to me. Markings on the bottom are very poorly done. Matrix code, "Intel Pentium", and "w/ MMX tech" text looks black. Are they really black, or they only look black on the picture?

Gennadiy
You mean the heatspreader side? That is not black, it is silver metal - looks the same as others.

The writing on the pin side appears engraved on all of the pentiums, as I can feel the bumps with my fingernail. However, SY27S engraving seems deeper than the SL27S.

I begin to suspect it is fake. In the side-by-side comparison, notice:
1. the right side of p in "pentium" is curved inwards.
2. all of the 8's have smaller top lobe than bottom lobe; in a real pentium, the top and bottom lobes of 8's are the same size.
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