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skold



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: strongarm Reply with quote

pulled this out of that ipaq (and sold the parts from it for a killing on ebay Very Happy)



i wouldnt mind getting a couple more of these, with intact solder balls.. i basically ripped it off of the motherboard, so the underside looks pretty brutal :/
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for BGA removal just get a toaster oven, tick it in for a bit and the chip will come right off.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, i stuck it in an actual oven thinking it would melt the solder balls but it didnt.. and i didnt want to have it catch fire
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skold wrote:
lol, i stuck it in an actual oven thinking it would melt the solder balls but it didnt.. and i didnt want to have it catch fire


What temp?
I use 375F

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think 400, for abotu 10 min?

it had to heat up tho
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to remove chips more professionally. Just having a chip is one thing, but making sure it is usable and works adds value to it. If the buyer is sure that it goes then that makes it a better sale and will improve the value of your collection if you retain it.

Sheer metal is one thing, but what is better is guarantees of usability (not that anyone is going to use it) but it is even better.

Take for example stamp collectors, they go to great lengths to ensure that glues or water stains do not stain their stamps.

We could take a note from them. Ensure that our chips look as original as possible so as to ensure they have the highest possible value.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, I don't think that anyone will try to resolder and reuse BGA chips in our collector's community Wink

I use a heat pistol (I hope that you understand what I mean) to remove my BGA chips, it takes around 30 seconds.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i try to keep all of my chips in the best condition possible. ive spent 2-3 hours on one chip trying to remove stickers and crap from it without scratching the chip itself Razz.. also, straightening pins.

soldered chips are a pain in the ass though which is why i dont bother with them much. the ipaq i took that off of was dead and i didnt care to have the entire motherboard taking up space for such a small chip. its only my second bga chip though so im not too good at unsoldering them Razz

minuteman, what do you mean by heat gun?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=176482&G=57982&I=55005
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