INTEL Q7663 up for auction

[Mixeur]

[JAC]

They are pretty good guidelines that have worked well so far.

[Chiefish]

Altho I argee with both of you on this , the precident has already been set that it is OK to do. Unless we want to repeal this president and go back to the old ways of doing things.
An example
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14037&highlight=bids

[Barren Realms 007]

As I said I only did this because of the rareity of the chip and it being an Intel chip. Just as I did with the C4004 chip. There was no bickering when tha was done except for this same point that is being discussed now. That was why I asked a moderator before I proceede with this.

A point was bought up about price and running the bid up. When the C4004 was ran I had a high bidder that was willing to go to a certain amount. I could have ran the bid up when someone posted a bid but I didn't.

Please lets end this conversation before it becomes an argument.

[JAC]

Rarity is irrelevant. The point you are failing to grasp is that by having auctions by pm, sooner or later people are going to get ripped off. This happens on ebay with shill bidding, but it isnt actually as big an issue as it once was.

[Mixeur]

Binary speaking, as a moderator, this situation is not OK. I'm not saying that I'm against this thread or not, but the fact is that either the rule should be changed, either this thread should be closed.

[Barren Realms 007]

[JAC]

What exactly is your objection to selling on ebay?

[Barren Realms 007]

[JAC]

Surprising that you dont have an account with eBay, most people have one. The few I know who dont have accounts usually have had problems with them or paypal in the past.

ebay also typically delivers higher sale prices than direct forum sales, so if price is not a key motive in supporting what you do, then why are you keen to drive the price up with bidding here?

ebay is pretty good... buyers get security, and sellers get a global audience for their wares for a very small fee... many sellers start with the minimum acceptable selling price to overcome this "burden". Less fleabay by the way, more feebay. Smart sellers close deals on the side and cut out ebay and paypal all together

[gshv]

Allowing people to PM the seller, and then seller posting current price in the thread is in gray area - it's kind of an auction, but it's not a real auction because people are not posting their bids. My objections forum auctions are:
- they generate larger number of useless posts, that may add a lot to phpBB database size, and eventually make the database and the forum slower.
- they expose maximum prices that collectors are willing to pay. As a collector, I'm against it, as it gives wrong ideas to casual sellers. Dedicated sellers, of course, know how much they can get for items.

With that in mind, we can still have auction-type threads, but with one condition - old threads will be purged on regular basis. I can setup phpBB to purge auction threads that are older than one or two months. Or, like eBay, we can make it three months. I think that phpBB allows only per-forum purging, so we may need to create a new forum for auctions.

Gennadiy

[CPUShack]

Or just delete it when its done

[gshv]

Sometimes you want to keep it longer, at least until the buyer receives the chip(s).

Gennadiy

[Barren Realms 007]

[Barren Realms 007]