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MaxP779
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: Fake CPU's? |
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I dont really understand fake cpus, but ive seen it mentioned a few times that a certain CPU is fake, maybe someone can answer my questions
How do you identify one?
How do you get a fake CPU to begin with? These things need fabs and clean rooms and all that high tech manufacturing stuff right? Or is a fake CPU simply a lump of ceramic and metal dressed up to look like a CPU with no silicon die inside?
Is it that its not actually a fake CPU its just made by someone other than whats is printed on it? |
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jrmunro

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 3149 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I`m no expert but usually it`s a cpu of lower frequency remarked to a higher one or as in Amd chips had bridges changed also. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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yup, usually they are remarked as a higher spec.
Sometimes its a completely different chip marked to something else.
Other times it is a empty package (no die) marked as something else _________________ New for 2025! The CPU Shack has a co-processor!
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Neon_WA

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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| naked1300 wrote: | | http://www.cpu-galaxy.at/Article/fakes.htm |
The funny thing with that processor.. it was faked from a fake  _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world:
those who understand binary and those who don't. ~Author Unknown
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Chook

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 2250 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ceramic fakes such as 486 and Pentiums were usually made by grinding down the top surface of the chip to remove the old engraved markings and then engraving new markings on them - eg grinding down a 486DX2-50 and then engraving it as a 486DX2-66.
In most cases they are easily noticable as the fakers rarely got the font of the engravngs exactly the same as the original. The grinding is uaually evident too as the chip is slightly thinner than it should be and lacks the chamfered edge. Fakers often had the wrong dates such as the die date being later than the package date (should be the other way around) and sometimes even had the sspec wrong.
Although what I just said makes it seem easy to spot fakes, you usually have to be a cpu collector to pick up the differences. I had some fakes in my collection for ages before they were pointed out to me! _________________ General failure reading disk in drive A
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WFS2005

Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 1526 Location: HB China
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a SU046 too, lol |
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MaxP779
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah so its the ceramic ones i need to watch out for. |
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CPUShack

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CPUShack

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