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Cpuswe



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Suitable scanner for chip scanning? Reply with quote

Hi!

I bought a scanner today and where planning to rescan my collection since i want to be able to bring up a high quality pictures on my site. (Previously used an old one at work). I bought a Canon CanoScan LiDe 60 because that supposed to be a good scanner according to the salesman, and how much difference can there be? (so i thought Laughing ). The problem is the "depth of field" (i think its called). As you can se on my testscan below the text on the Celeron on the right is not readable.

Do you have any ideas for a good scanner with good "depth of field" suitable for chip scanning? Around $100-120. What do you use?

/Thomas

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a canon 3000f.. never had that problem

you may want to just try scanning everything the same. scan the tops, then the bottoms. that should help it focus on the right parts

but ive done scans like that before and never had a problem

the only thing ive run into is scanning stuff off from the center.. they come out a bit skewed, like so:

http://www.cpudb.com/imgs/cpus/intel/387-dx-33-b.jpg

id suggest lining them up down the middle.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a good idea but it did not work. I took the single Celeron chip and put it in the middle off the scanner. Looked like this...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the same scanner and the same problem. The Canon LIDE is not good for chip scanning Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris all CIS scanners are not good to scan 3D items. For scan these items we must use CCD scanners. I work in Canon so I prefer him Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
canon scanners are good for take photos not objects, for me a good solution are Hp scanners, they got a good deep of field, check this AMD taken with a Scanjet 3670 (with film adapter about $140 more than one year ago) and notice the details of the film adapter placed about 1/3 inch from the glass
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So right you where Marcin! Read some more on the internet and quickly understod that for scanning objects you have to use a CCD scanner. So i went to the store and got a HP scanjet 2400 instead (sorry Marcin, but they did not have a Canon CCD Wink) which works perfectly.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I working in computer service in Canon authorized shop and service so I really do not know which model of CCD Canon do great scans of 3D items like CPU Confused In home I have LIDE 30 - great for photos with flat items but for CPUs as all said is tragedy.

I think that model which andamus use is very good Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use an all-in-one HP PSC750 and it works very well.

Before that I used a Visioneer 5300USB which doesnt work with XP SP2 but it scanned well.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to work for hp doing officejet support. one day i took an amd 29k to work and scanned it on various printers.. psc 750.. psc 950.. psc2210.. d135.. and the shiny new (at the time) psc 2410 photosmart.

they were all quite frankly horrible, at least at 600dpi.

the psc750 was one of the worst. everything was very pixelated and jagged.


i also had an hp scanjet 5300 or somethign along those lines, which i used for a while.. it was fairly sharp but it was washed out, like a monitor with the brightness cranked.

honestly my canon 3000f is the best processor scanner ive come across. and it does negatives to boot. its a ccd scanner, too.

here's a sample at 600dpi (resized, of course)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me uses a Mustek 1200ED parallel scanner. Worked perfectly under WinNT4/Win98. Unfortunatelly there are no more tested TWAIN drivers for current Windows releases, so transfer from the scan utility isn't done via TWAIN anymore, but stdin/tmp-files in jpeg which gives compresion artefacts. depth sharpness is quite okay though. my scanner type should be <20$ on ebay today Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a old Acer ScanPrisa 340P, runs off USB and it is a CCD

WinXP had no problem accessing it using the XP built-in wizard Smile

The outcome is not perfect, but at least markings are still intellgible

btw, what you'll expect from a scanner that is given to you free of charge? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a Mustek BearP@w 1200CS, it does pretty good job, although you start getting color artifacts when the lamp works longer than 20 minutes. It needs to cool down for 5 minutes after that. d'oh! And it was cheap of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I also use a Mustek scanner - ScanExpress 12000P for parallel port. It has maximal physical resolution of 1200x600 dpi.

I use it with Windows 98. But there are drivers for Win2000 and WinXP avaliable.

This model has very good scan depth!!! The CPU on the picture lies on the two thick pencils. The distance between CPU and scanner window is about 1.2 cm. (This picture is at 300 dpi)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

How about scanning the AMD K6, K6-2 and K6-3 with those engraved markings! I cannot get those right. I use a HP scanner.

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