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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: Suitable scanner for chip scanning? |
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Hi!
I bought a scanner today and where planning to rescan my collection since i want to be able to bring up a high quality pictures on my site. (Previously used an old one at work). I bought a Canon CanoScan LiDe 60 because that supposed to be a good scanner according to the salesman, and how much difference can there be? (so i thought ). The problem is the "depth of field" (i think its called). As you can se on my testscan below the text on the Celeron on the right is not readable.
Do you have any ideas for a good scanner with good "depth of field" suitable for chip scanning? Around $100-120. What do you use?
/Thomas _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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skold

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 960 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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i have a canon 3000f.. never had that problem
you may want to just try scanning everything the same. scan the tops, then the bottoms. that should help it focus on the right parts
but ive done scans like that before and never had a problem
the only thing ive run into is scanning stuff off from the center.. they come out a bit skewed, like so:
http://www.cpudb.com/imgs/cpus/intel/387-dx-33-b.jpg
id suggest lining them up down the middle. |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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That was a good idea but it did not work. I took the single Celeron chip and put it in the middle off the scanner. Looked like this... _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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Borris70

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 988 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: |
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i have the same scanner and the same problem. The Canon LIDE is not good for chip scanning  _________________ best regards borris
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Boris all CIS scanners are not good to scan 3D items. For scan these items we must use CCD scanners. I work in Canon so I prefer him  _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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andamus

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1029
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
canon scanners are good for take photos not objects, for me a good solution are Hp scanners, they got a good deep of field, check this AMD taken with a Scanjet 3670 (with film adapter about $140 more than one year ago) and notice the details of the film adapter placed about 1/3 inch from the glass |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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So right you where Marcin! Read some more on the internet and quickly understod that for scanning objects you have to use a CCD scanner. So i went to the store and got a HP scanjet 2400 instead (sorry Marcin, but they did not have a Canon CCD ) which works perfectly.
Thanks!
/Thomas _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I working in computer service in Canon authorized shop and service so I really do not know which model of CCD Canon do great scans of 3D items like CPU In home I have LIDE 30 - great for photos with flat items but for CPUs as all said is tragedy.
I think that model which andamus use is very good  _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I use an all-in-one HP PSC750 and it works very well.
Before that I used a Visioneer 5300USB which doesnt work with XP SP2 but it scanned well. _________________ New for 2025! The CPU Shack has a co-processor!
Visit The CPU Shack of microprocessor history and information. |
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skold

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 960 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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i used to work for hp doing officejet support. one day i took an amd 29k to work and scanned it on various printers.. psc 750.. psc 950.. psc2210.. d135.. and the shiny new (at the time) psc 2410 photosmart.
they were all quite frankly horrible, at least at 600dpi.
the psc750 was one of the worst. everything was very pixelated and jagged.
i also had an hp scanjet 5300 or somethign along those lines, which i used for a while.. it was fairly sharp but it was washed out, like a monitor with the brightness cranked.
honestly my canon 3000f is the best processor scanner ive come across. and it does negatives to boot. its a ccd scanner, too.
here's a sample at 600dpi (resized, of course) |
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Grampa

Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 56 Location: Erlangen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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/me uses a Mustek 1200ED parallel scanner. Worked perfectly under WinNT4/Win98. Unfortunatelly there are no more tested TWAIN drivers for current Windows releases, so transfer from the scan utility isn't done via TWAIN anymore, but stdin/tmp-files in jpeg which gives compresion artefacts. depth sharpness is quite okay though. my scanner type should be <20$ on ebay today
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x86sniper

Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 179 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm using a old Acer ScanPrisa 340P, runs off USB and it is a CCD
WinXP had no problem accessing it using the XP built-in wizard
The outcome is not perfect, but at least markings are still intellgible
btw, what you'll expect from a scanner that is given to you free of charge?  |
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slava

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 379 Location: Dnipro, Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm using a Mustek BearP@w 1200CS, it does pretty good job, although you start getting color artifacts when the lamp works longer than 20 minutes. It needs to cool down for 5 minutes after that. And it was cheap of course.
Works great under Linux  _________________ Collecting soviet and western CPUs once again -- highfive to old-timers o/ |
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Qwerty

Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 3141 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I also use a Mustek scanner - ScanExpress 12000P for parallel port. It has maximal physical resolution of 1200x600 dpi.
I use it with Windows 98. But there are drivers for Win2000 and WinXP avaliable.
This model has very good scan depth!!! The CPU on the picture lies on the two thick pencils. The distance between CPU and scanner window is about 1.2 cm. (This picture is at 300 dpi) |
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Simmayor

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 328 Location: Deventer Ov, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
How about scanning the AMD K6, K6-2 and K6-3 with those engraved markings! I cannot get those right. I use a HP scanner.
Simmayor |
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